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    Re: related to proper handling of home type copeland scroll compressor (oil related)

    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    Tex,everyone on here that replies to posts enjoys helping people

    No ones digging you out or being funny

    If you take a step back and read back all the posts and look at it from theother side of the fence for a minute, you may not feel as offended

    You have started a thread asking questions and whilst the replies may not beexactly what you are looking for, they have been free and from experiencedengineers, whom in order to be able to give advice have to be able to imaginethe system in question from the info put forward and all of which have to havea good understanding of amongst other things, chemistry, physics,thermodynamics and electro-mechanics.

    You then do some info digging and tell us how it is and you believe this ishow it all works

    Don’t you think that’s a little rude & disrespectful ?

    Gary for onehas over 4 decades of training, hands on experience, teaching and the author ofsome well known technical manuals

    While his bedside manner may not be always perfect when rallied/upset (whoseis?) by what we see as (don’t take offence) anothernewbie know it all, his comments are valid & justified by your own commentsand guesswork.

    I for one respect his knowledge and achievements in the industry and havethis week personally asked him for advice (which I also received free ofcharge) and I have nearly 3 decades of training and experience. You just neverstop learning in this game.

    You want info and so do we

    The first question on all our lips is why did the 1st compressorfail, as it is the way the industry works.

    We don’t have that answer, which is not good as this could be the reason the2nd compressor went pop ! Burnout and then no system clean up !!

    Leaving contaminated acidic oil and particles from the burnt out compressorswindings insulation, in the system, the latter could have blocked your drier,the oil could not.

    Acidic oil in a system will contaminate a new compressors oil, causingpremature failure. Plus note it does not need any gravity to return to the lowside of the compressor just the correct oil for the refrigerant in use to ensureits miscibility with the refrigerant, both vapour and liquid.



    The answer to your question of handling of a scroll and how long to leave itbefore starting it up in a system does not have a definitive answer.

    One manufacturer have one view as NIKE found for you 15 degrees, anotherview monkey spanners knows of pumpingoil, liquid and even nails demonstrated before his eyes and then again liquidtime after time from mad fridgie shows that could not kill it.

    The general view is from all the experience of all the engineers that havereplied has been no longer than the time it takes to correctly install the pot.As it just can not go no where and would drain back down.

    On the other hand, if the internal mounts are broken, there is no amount of time that will fix it.

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    Re: related to proper handling of home type copeland scroll compressor (oil related)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    On the other hand, if the internal mounts are broken, there is no amount of time that will fix it.

    Well if they failed whats to say that in turn they have not taken out the reverse syphon pressure shims, that new compressor going to fail

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