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    Re: ? about hydrocarbon gas

    You also need a license & to know exactlywhat your doing.
    If you don't, go directly to jail.
    What happens if you get a leak?
    What happens if someone comes after you & they don't know whats in it.
    Its highlt flammable.
    You have to take it very seriously, as back yard operators trying to save money are going to hurt people.
    A domestic fridge is not worth woorying about due to very small charge.

    DON'T DO IT UNTIL YOR FULLY TRAINED AND LICENCED

    We all know it works so don't experiment!

    Who are you saving money, you or client?

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    Re: ? about hydrocarbon gas

    Quote Originally Posted by RANGER1 View Post
    You also need a license & to know exactlywhat your doing.
    If you don't, go directly to jail.
    What happens if you get a leak?
    What happens if someone comes after you & they don't know whats in it.
    Its highlt flammable.
    You have to take it very seriously, as back yard operators trying to save money are going to hurt people.
    A domestic fridge is not worth woorying about due to very small charge.

    DON'T DO IT UNTIL YOR FULLY TRAINED AND LICENCED

    We all know it works so don't experiment!

    Who are you saving money, you or client?
    That's a good point, but in the UK if the guy holds a safe handling of refrigerants qualification
    (recent one is the F-gas C&G or CITB) he is deemed qualified to work with HC refrigerants.

    He might not be allowed to buy refrigerant grade HC's because the suppliers like people
    to have a HC qualification also but qualified fridge guys in the UK are qualified to work
    with the refrigerant.

    Regards

    Rob

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    Re: ? about hydrocarbon gas

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob White View Post
    That's a good point, but in the UK if the guy holds a safe handling of refrigerants qualification
    (recent one is the F-gas C&G or CITB) he is deemed qualified to work with HC refrigerants.

    He might not be allowed to buy refrigerant grade HC's because the suppliers like people
    to have a HC qualification also but qualified fridge guys in the UK are qualified to work
    with the refrigerant.

    Regards

    Rob

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    Rob,
    Too my understading in Australia you need a different or extra qualification.
    Plumbers here have to be licenced gas fitters to run gas lines, hhok up stoves, hot water systems etc.
    I also think to convert something it requires special expertise as well.
    If it was not purpose built electicals have to be modified as well as ventilation requirements if system is a little larger.
    Its only taking off slowly here as regulations & training have to catch up.
    Obviously as you say refrigerant grade refrigerant is required which is relatively cheap.
    LPG is not suitable for general use in refrigeration.

    I think it is a good refrigerant, but needs to be handled correctly.


    A number of people have been injured or killed just storing mapp gas in their cars, let alone bottles of hydrocarbons.

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    Re: ? about hydrocarbon gas

    Quote Originally Posted by RANGER1 View Post
    Rob,
    Too my understading in Australia you need a different or extra qualification.
    Plumbers here have to be licenced gas fitters to run gas lines, hhok up stoves, hot water systems etc.
    I also think to convert something it requires special expertise as well.
    If it was not purpose built electicals have to be modified as well as ventilation requirements if system is a little larger.
    Its only taking off slowly here as regulations & training have to catch up.
    Obviously as you say refrigerant grade refrigerant is required which is relatively cheap.
    LPG is not suitable for general use in refrigeration.

    I think it is a good refrigerant, but needs to be handled correctly.


    A number of people have been injured or killed just storing mapp gas in their cars, let alone bottles of hydrocarbons.
    I'm not so sure about that. I'm told that Arctick take no interest in natural refrigerants including HC's at all.
    I all's know a number of people who've bought propane from Repco or Supercheap Auto (Repco = Halfords) to charge their car A/C with. It's led to a few mildly heated forum discussions.

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