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27-04-2020, 07:22 AM #1
Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
How can we estimate the liquid quantity in a jug, by knowing its pressure and temperature?
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27-04-2020, 02:02 PM #2
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
If by jug you mean a refrigerant cylinder then simply weigh it and subtract the tare weight to give the weight of the contents.
Brian - Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
Retired March 2015
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02-05-2020, 12:47 PM #3
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
Yeah, but how exactly do I know what percentage is liquid and gas? The PT chart would show the refrigerant within the saturation curve, but how can I estimate the liquid/gas percentage....
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02-05-2020, 02:49 PM #4
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
The way Ive seen it done is,
- Find the specific volume of the total contents -
v = Volume of cylinder / Mass of the refrigerant (vapour and liquid)
- Use the refrigerants property tables to find the specific volumes of the vapour and of the liquid at the saturation temp/pressure. -
vg - specific volume of the vapour
vf - specific volume of the liquid
- Find the Quality -
x = (v - vf) / (vg - vf)
- The mass of vapour is then found -
Mass of vapour = (quality) X (total mass (liquid and vapour))
You can work out the rest from that.
The above is given as an example in the book, Thermodynamics: An Engineering Approach, Çengel/Boles, 8th edition, page 129, Properties of Saturated Liquid-Vapour Mixture. More than likely to find it online for free.Last edited by seanf; 02-05-2020 at 05:50 PM.
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02-05-2020, 03:19 PM #5
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
Or, tap the side of the cylinder with a small spanner moving slowly from the base up to the top. When the sound note changes then you have found the top of the liquid.
Brian - Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
Retired March 2015
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02-05-2020, 05:10 PM #6
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
This is a test or homework question not a out in the field one :-)
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15-05-2020, 09:27 AM #7
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
Thanks a lot guys! I was just being curious whenever I see a liquid receiver. Now it makes some sense :-)
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15-05-2020, 09:28 AM #8
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
haha... definitely not in field.
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15-05-2020, 01:47 PM #9
Re: Vapour pressure and saturation temperature - Estimate qunatity
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