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    Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?



    Hi I got a Matsushi-ta 2K-17-C3-R12-6A Rotary but it had no electrical and I can't find a PDF with the pin out and the value for the run cap. It is a PSC type unit that much I've been able to find out.

    Is there any formula for calculating the correct size? but then again I have no power specs either

    Any help greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Found a bit on it but not the pin-out or cap yet..
    http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/...d_benefits.pdf
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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Quote Originally Posted by The MG Pony View Post
    Hi I got a Matsushi-ta 2K-17-C3-R12-6A Rotary but it had no electrical and I can't find a PDF with the pin out and the value for the run cap. It is a PSC type unit that much I've been able to find out.

    Is there any formula for calculating the correct size? but then again I have no power specs either

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.
    You can't calculate this, these are values found by practical tests in the factory.
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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Peachy. Well I think I found the pin outs finaly. I still hear the damned beeping in my ears 5 houres later <_<

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_UK View Post
    Found a bit on it but not the pin-out or cap yet..
    http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/...d_benefits.pdf
    Ya thats the one I found, had a bit o info but nothing that can be realy used. Thanks for posting it non the less!

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Digging out college notes found a formula (Warning NO responsibility/liability accepted:):
    Permanent condenser Split phase motor:
    Note 1: "When running the Condenser should absorb 1Kva per Kw of motor power"
    Note 2: low starting torque

    C=(P*10^6)/(w*(V*V)) where C is uF; V=mains line voltage; P=motor power in watts (from horsepower conversion); w=2*(22/7)*Hz (Hz cycles of your mains)

    Leaves one with the problem of what power is the motor, where did you get it from ? Any data there, otherwise the challenge will be work out HP based on cc/rev and rpm... any other formulas out there?

    Dedicated to Santi for his near unreadable photocopies!!
    Last edited by momo; 31-01-2007 at 12:34 AM. Reason: missed out 10^6

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Awsome thanks. Now just need to find out its power draw in either amps or watts or horse power!

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Quote Originally Posted by momo View Post
    Digging out college notes found a formula (Warning NO responsibility/liability accepted:):
    Permanent condenser Split phase motor:
    Note 1: "When running the Condenser should absorb 1Kva per Kw of motor power"
    Note 2: low starting torque

    C=(P*10C=(P*10^6)/(w*(V*V)) where C is uF; V=mains line voltage; P=motor power in watts (from horsepower conversion); w=2*(22/7)*Hz (Hz cycles of your mains)
    6)/(w*(V*V)) where C is uF; V=mains line voltage; P=motor power in watts (from horsepower conversion); w=2*(22/7)*Hz (Hz cycles of your mains)
    Please forgive my ignorance. In your fornula you use the symbol "^", I do not know the usage of this symbol. what does it mean? I thank you very much.

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Quote Originally Posted by momo View Post
    Permanent condenser Split phase motor:
    Note 1: "When running the Condenser should absorb 1Kva per Kw of motor power"
    Note 2: low starting torque

    C=(P*10^6)/(w*(V*V)) where C is uF; V=mains line voltage; P=motor power in watts (from horsepower conversion); w=2*(22/7)*Hz (Hz cycles of your mains)

    Leaves one with the problem of what power is the motor, where did you get it from ? Any data there, otherwise the challenge will be work out HP based on cc/rev and rpm... any other formulas out there?
    Someone crosschecked this already with real -world compressors?
    Never saw this before in any book but anything is possible.
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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Hi Pony,

    If you know the HP or capacity in BTU and its AC compressor, I will give you a list of capacitors per compressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGuiver View Post
    Please forgive my ignorance. In your fornula you use the symbol "^", I do not know the usage of this symbol. what does it mean? I thank you very much.
    It means to the power of, that's how most people write it using normal keyboard characters.
    eg speed of light is 3×10^8 m/s 3 times 10 to the power of 8.

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    Re: Capacitor Values for rotary compressor?

    Check here your model no.! It should be something like this:
    2P17C3R126ASA

    Model Certification Performance Parameters Outside Dimensions Capacity(W) Power(W) Noise (dB)

    2P17C3R126ASA UL/CSA 3300 1085 65 241 270 75 107 53/8.06 12.9 88/60

    Found here!
    Last edited by nike123; 05-08-2008 at 11:35 AM.

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