hi guys as with a lot of things i messed up should hav introduced myself before lookin into your forum go by the name of joe ice hi to you all
now lets get down to the nitty gritty myself i was trained by 2 unbeivable guys who used the [what some people call the touchy feely metod] what im really
asking is a forum like this jus makin it too easy for people learning the trade to look up things and they dont have to think for themselves [still apologising real name is also joe this site is brilliant]