Daikin RZQ100 Super Inverter 2007 ~ U4 Fault
Been reading over a few earlier posts on similar troubles with U4 faults and wondered if I could run this by the clever types on here, to check I have it correct:
New customer:
Daikin RZQ100 Super Inverter 2007
This single-split has been running for 2-3years in a server room with no history of problems reported.
Breaker tripped (no power outage for premises; just the MCB tripping on its own). After breaker was reset (power restored), the controller was flashing red light and U4-fault showing. The FAQ wall-mount is blowing okay etc but no cooling.
U4 Fault = communications problem between Room & Outdoor Unit.
Engineer went to site and found both PCBs dead (no neons lit up). With this and MCB trip, he discounted a comm-cable problem between in+outdoor units.
Incoming mains power to condenser unit =OK. PCB fuses =OK. Mains arrives at/enters the Inverter PCB and goes out to the second PCB (and mains received at second PCB too). That's good, but the low volt side is not powered (neons etc).
Engineer suspects the transformer on Inv PCB, which should take mains power and feed the low voltage circuitry -- might not be allowing the correct power through (possibly).
Looking for what might trip the MCB and cause trouble for the PCBs, the obvious suspects are compressor motor and the two condenser fan motors.
Engineer checked compressor windings: all equal/good and not down to earth = good.
The compressor label was not scorched/burned etc (clean and neat) = good.
Engineer did not check the condenser fans electrically but said they both spun freely. =good-ish (but no cigar). (I guess he did not have his megger with him, just the multimeter.)
OTHER OBSERVATIONS: Condenser coil: Inside, the coil still looks clean, like new. However, there is a 3mm thick (about) carpet layer of dirt covering the intake surface of the condenser coil (outside). Classic stuff. I suspect that the system has not been maintained since it was installed, 2-3 years ago and the dirt has built up in all that time (24/7, too). And this may have something to do with the MCB tripping? (Increased resistance to airflow and fan motors struggling.)
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The plan is:
a) Buy two expensive Daikin PCBs (ouch!!) and return to site.
b) First megger the two fan motors to check they are okay (and make sure compressor motor is rechecked with megger). If any of these items are defective, get new one/s and install them before fitting PCBs.
c) Peel off carpet layer of dirt from condenser coil (clean it).
d) Replace the PCBs and start system up with compressor disconnected. See if all is well now.
e) Then connect compressor and get ready with the amp-clamp to watch the amp draw as it starts up. Any sign of trouble (high amps), switch off before new PCBs duff over.
I must say I am a bit worried about that compressor messing things up when we fit the new PCBs, killing them off, so we have to get some new ones again (2xouch!!) and the repeat visit.
1) Does this all sound like the correct sequence of repair actions? Any suggestions for the engineer that he should be doing along the way, before we go out spending several hundred Ģs on these PCBs {bit like expensive cartridges for printers: 2-3 cartridges = new printer, but at least the printer then runs okay}.
2) When installing the new PCBs, is this the best way to guard against the compressor (if it is duff or slightly duff) killing off our nice new PCBs? Ie, using the amp-clamp to watch amps draw, as it starts up.
Re: Daikin RZQ100 Super Inverter 2007 ~ U4 Fault
I may have misread this, but if the only (possible) problem with PCBīs is the transformer, then why not try and just replace the transformer first? If thatīs all it is your client will love you forever.
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Daikin RZQ100 Inv 2007 ~ Changing Transformer (gulp)
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Originally Posted by
airefresco
why not try and just replace the transformer first? If thatīs all it is your client will love you forever.
That'd be great. But, I am not sure my engineer is up to doing that kind of heart surgery. The thing is almost part of the green plastic card, rather than something sitting on wired stilts. I can see the existing card all bent to F and other damage occurring just while he tries to prize the thing off. (Its that black boxy thing near the top, far as I know):
Re: Daikin RZQ100 Inv 2007 ~ Changing Transformer (gulp)
Hi,
What is this unit model RZQ100 B7 or B8 or B9?
Does the inverter green LED flash?
Have you checked the inline fuses that supply the transformer? They are located half way along the cable between the PCB's at the top, you need to remove the top section to access the fuse.
Re: Daikin RZQ100 Inv 2007
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Originally Posted by
Makeit go Right
Hi, VRVIII.
a) Unit model is RZQ100B9.
b) No LEDs flashing at all.
c) Engineer checked the inline fuses on the cable between the PCB's at the top.
Try switching off power to the unit, disconnect the fan motors and switch on again, if the LED's on the PCB's then flash replace the faulty fan motor.
If the PCB LED's are still dead replace the inverter board.
Note:
The fan motor has an internal inverter circuit which shares the same low voltage power supply as the PCB's.
A faulty inverter fan motor can damage the PCB but a faulty PCB will not damage the motor.
Re: Daikin RZQ100 Inv 2007
Thanks, VRVIII.
Yes, he checked that (unhook condr fans, power off-on).
(That's a good point about the fan motors internal inv circuit sharing the same low voltage power supply and direction of damage.)
