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nui
04-06-2006, 07:48 PM
Hello, Is there any way of finding the charge/volume of a system?, say there's been a leak, it's been fixed, and now you want to top it up.

Cheers,

The MG Pony
04-06-2006, 07:51 PM
try and find an Info plate, if no info plate then ya got me, I have the same problem with a twist lol.

NoNickName
04-06-2006, 10:55 PM
Top up until reaching spec subcooling.

afeef
05-06-2006, 08:44 AM
no.....
untill you get 3-5 c super heating
afeef

NoNickName
05-06-2006, 10:46 AM
Superheating can be varied depending on the TXV adjustment. Refrigerant charge must be checked against subcooling, not superheating.

afeef
05-06-2006, 11:12 AM
but the most important term is the superheating ,
the effecincy of system is depend upon it , the life of compressor depending upon it also
thanks no neck name

Renato RR
05-06-2006, 11:32 AM
How many kW on which evaporation temperature?And type of machine also?Which refrigerant you use?

Renato

NoNickName
05-06-2006, 02:26 PM
but the most important term is the superheating ,
the effecincy of system is depend upon it , the life of compressor depending upon it also
thanks no neck name

Of course.

27143721
05-06-2006, 05:56 PM
1. check the compressor current of a good equipment ( the same working conditions)
2. take it as reference and charge the problem equipment.

Peter_1
05-06-2006, 09:15 PM
This was already on this forum but charging by current is completely wrong.
I should say, first subcooling and cross-check also superheat.
But you can't predict this on forehand.

chillin out
05-06-2006, 10:07 PM
Keep adding gas untill the sight glass fills up (or your bottle runs out..lol)

If your comp gets covered in ice then start to runnnnnn.

Chillin:) :)

The MG Pony
05-06-2006, 11:36 PM
My vote is on sight glass, I winged it and did just that on my totally pieced together from archaic parts system and bang, hit -34 under load using R-290 and a 1/2ton R-12 TXV :) under load, and interestingly enough didn't take much extra gas to get it full

afeef
06-06-2006, 05:48 AM
My vote is on sight glass, I winged it and did just that on my totally pieced together from archaic parts system and bang, hit -34 under load using R-290 and a 1/2ton R-12 TXV :) under load, and interestingly enough didn't take much extra gas to get it full
sight glass give you the approximate amount of charge, it can help you monitoring your a/c system from leackage
but not to determine the exact refrigerent needed .
afeef

The MG Pony
06-06-2006, 07:01 AM
Ya I know that, but for a good fast fix it does the job marvellously

abdulazman
07-06-2006, 02:08 PM
Hi Nui

If in doubt than go back to basic.Check on the spec or info on the nameplate of the unit like a few of our members recommended. Reclaimed the refrigerant performing liquid transfer, weigh the charge and add the necessary amount short.

Good luck mate.

star882
11-06-2006, 05:26 AM
My vote is on sight glass, I winged it and did just that on my totally pieced together from archaic parts system and bang, hit -34 under load using R-290 and a 1/2ton R-12 TXV :) under load, and interestingly enough didn't take much extra gas to get it full
1/2 ton unit using R290???

The MG Pony
12-06-2006, 11:23 PM
Why not?, in reality the whole thing is a real hack job of a unit that I build whilst I am building the "real" system.

"The real" System I'm making will be using R-134a, I may use a mix or R-134a and R-600 to improve its efficiency.

Brian
12-06-2006, 11:51 PM
You could be very technical about the situation and work out the total volume of the different phases!

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