R600a - Hydrocarbon refrigerant training

[Ebac.David]

Hi all,

I work for a company that designs and makes watercoolers, dehumidifiers, heatpumps.

We are currently trying to change the current refrigerant we use from R134a over to R600a.

Is there any course I need to organise for people using the refrigerant? Or in another question who do I need to send on the training course?

We have engineers, production lines, repair lines...

A lot of companies have tried to say I need their course, BOC for example are saying I need to attend their CARE course. Is there a city & guilds I should be sending people on?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

[Rob White]

Hi all,

I work for a company that designs and makes watercoolers, dehumidifiers, heatpumps.

We are currently trying to change the current refrigerant we use from R134a over to R600a.

Is there any course I need to organise for people using the refrigerant? Or in another question who do I need to send on the training course?

We have engineers, production lines, repair lines...

A lot of companies have tried to say I need their course, BOC for example are saying I need to attend their CARE course. Is there a city & guilds I should be sending people on?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

There are both BOC (CARE) and City & Guilds.

The BOC one is to proove you have the underpinning knowledge
regarding HC's and with the qual you can purchase the refrigerant
from them and their agents.

The C&G one is new this year and is almost identical to the BOC
one but with a C&G qualification at the end of the course.

BOC is limited to one or two training providers and the C&G's
one could be done at most places that do 2079 and other fridge
based training.

If you mesage me I'll send you a list of training organisations.

Regards

Rob

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[Grizzly]

Hi David.
may I suggest you talk further to Rob and others as there are specific restrictions when dealing with R600a and other HC's.
With charge restrictions and room sizes calculations etc. Being quoted within EN 378-1-2008.
It would appear that a simple change over may have issues attached.
With strict restrictions upon system charge weights etc.
Good Luck.
Grizzly

[R600A]

Hi David

I can provide Basic training for R600a. There are so many myth's concerning R600a which to be honest scares a lot of engineers from working with it.
I have trained a few engineers now who are competent and no longer run a mile when its mentioned.

My number is 07961365484

Bryan

[Oldmanfrigy]

I am involved in the training of Refrigeration Mechanics in the use of Hydrcrbon Refrigerants. As well as a refrigeration mechanic one of my other trades is a Gas Fitter where in the past I piped LPG into homes and service LPG home appliances, they could go bang but they didn't because I am trained.

The Nationally Acredited Units are as follows UEENEEJ174A and UEENEEJ175A please look up the course description on the National Training site.

Contact College of Climate Change 0861420799 for training.

134a has a Global Warming Potential of 1300 Hydrocarbon is 3!!! that is what is driving it's use and in this country it is a fraction of the price.

You can also go to Auto parts suppliers and get a 300 gram pressure pack to charge your car, it works fine in old R12 units, there may be things that should !!! be done , but it works like R12..

You use about 40% weight of charge in comparison to 134a.

The sooner we all get trained the better, and the faster we will catch up to the rest of the world who make most of our units anyway.

Tony B..Adelaide.

[Rob White]

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Just be aware that different countries have different regulations.

In the UK the normal route to working with refrigerants is become trained
as a refrigeration engineer and at some point you will have to prove you
understand and can demonstrate your ability to work with refrigerants.
One group of refrigerants that we need to be aware of is Hydrocarbons,
but if you can work with refrigerants you can work with HC's.

Show them some respect but HC refrigerants are only refrigerants and they
are no more complicated to work on than any other, as long as you know what
you are doing.

Remember some HC fridges only hold the equivalent of a few cigarette lighters
worth of liquid and we put cigarette lighters in our pockets and then we
deliberately set fire to them.

Regards

Rob

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