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Peter_1
10-12-2004, 10:08 PM
Just a wild, perhaps stupid idea of me: should a grouped import of cheap, unlabeled outdoor units - only the outdoors - for use in small cooling applications not be a good idea?
We could ask that they fit a dryer and a small receiver in the unit and perhaps a fan speed controller.
Topped of with a sight glass and a filterdryer.
They don't have to fill them with gas and on't have to deliver copper lines, only the unit.
We can ask for prices without obligations
I think they can make it for half the price we pay now for an outdoor unit with a weather protection.

Peter

Abe
12-12-2004, 12:57 AM
Peter

I am quite intrested in the idea............
Could even have them labelled up as something.......

eggs
12-12-2004, 01:12 AM
forgive me, but these units will they be for small dairy cabinets? and such like?

cheers

eggs

Peter_1
12-12-2004, 09:15 AM
Aiyub, maybe "Aiycool"

Eggs, you can use them in any application where you need +/- 6 kW cooling at -10C (for the largest units).

Oh, I forgot, perhaps a dryer and a sight-glass already fitted in the unit.

rudyreg
15-12-2004, 11:56 AM
As usual with great ideas, someone already thought of it. The new J & E Hall low noise outdoor condensing units are derived from their A/C range made in Malaysia but using European sourced components - mainly Danfoss. They ustilize the same casings but have receiver, hp/lp, drier, sight glass, fan speed controller and even full IP55 starter panel with isolator. Low temp models also have oil seps. And yes, they are very competetive. You can buy them from AFR Refrigeration Ltd. in England tel. +44208 875 1999. They also have European distributors.

Peter_1
15-12-2004, 12:57 PM
We did it already 10 years ago.
Share us some prices please.

rudyreg
15-12-2004, 01:28 PM
e.g. unit based on Maneurop MTZ64 ( c. 10KW @ -10C. evap ) we would sell for pounds sterling 1161 in UK.

Peter_1
15-12-2004, 09:52 PM
e.g. unit based on Maneurop MTZ64 ( c. 10KW @ -10C. evap ) we would sell for pounds sterling 1161 in UK.
This not expensive but VERY expensive.
What do you think Chemi regarding the prices I showed you?

eggs
16-12-2004, 07:47 PM
Peter, i mainly buy 3.5kw evap -10 and 6kw evap-10 for multideck dairy display cabinets 2.5m long and 3.75m long.
what is the price for these on the continent?
for the "silentsys" type systems i pay bout 900 & 1100.

cheers

eggs

Peter_1
19-12-2004, 10:30 AM
Well, a complete unit, indoor (wall mounted) and outdoor which can give 3,5 kW at -10C will cost 232 US$ cooling only and 239 (only 7$ more) for a heat pump version (+/- 125 )

I'm sure they can fit units with sight glasses, receiver and filter-dryer for less than the price a indoor unit costs.

Peter_1
19-12-2004, 10:36 AM
... The new J & E Hall low noise outdoor condensing units .....You can buy them from AFR Refrigeration Ltd. in England tel. +44208 875 1999. They also have European distributors.

Searched on both webpages and didn't found the units.

The AFR webpage is very slowly: none of the links (the logo's) are working, you have to click at the bottom bar links.
Hope their service is better.

Servicefrigo
18-03-2005, 07:42 AM
well I was putting once( 1998) a second hand outdor units ( 50 DM was the price, total cost the owner pay was 800 DM) 2 kw electric power, 380 v ,on a display cabinet 4 metters lenght and the only problem I have since then was the fan .I change it 2 times. Good work i say.