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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Firstly read the first question, there is no mention of an evaporator.

    So without thinking any further than what I say next

    We have an open flash economiser vessel, liquid in, liquid out vapour out. what are the properties of all. Are there any strange things happening???

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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by mad fridgie View Post

    We have an open flash economiser vessel, liquid in, liquid out vapour out. what are the properties of all. Are there any strange things happening???
    There is no stage of saturation
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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    There is no stage of saturation
    ????????????????????

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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by mad fridgie View Post
    ????????????????????
    There is stage of saturation, the point of entropy, where diss order becomes order once more , the point at which you achieve full seperation ??
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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    The liquid entering the flash econimiser has a specific heat/energy & at the point of seperation you are transfering the heat/energy from the liquid into the vapour, in effect subcooling the liquid
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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    The liquid entering the flash econimiser has a specific heat/energy & at the point of seperation you are transfering the heat/energy from the liquid into the vapour, in effect subcooling the liquid
    Not quite, apart from liquid head there is no sub cooling, and you are converting some liquid into vapour to keep the energy balanced. What then are actual properties of each exit stream. This is the question in hand?

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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    There is no stage of saturation
    No there must be (surely) a point of saturation, just this is somehow minimal as you have found a way for full seperation
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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    No there must be (surely) a point of saturation, just this is somehow minimal as you have found a way for full seperation
    Yes seperation is an issue, but not the issue in hand (it must happen in an open flash vessel anyway) We are onlt talking about internal energy, (law of conservation)

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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by mad fridgie View Post

    We have an open flash economiser vessel, liquid in, liquid out vapour out. what are the properties of all. Are there any strange things happening???
    Liquid in - saturated liquid

    liquid out - liquid only

    vapour out - vapour only

    neither are superheated or subcooled

    & therefore

    to go back to the question from Chef - #5

    They would both be plotted on a ph chart along their respective lines at the point of saturation

    ???????????
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    Re: How to assign thermodynamic properties after splitting two phase into gas and liq

    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    Liquid in - saturated liquid

    liquid out - liquid only

    vapour out - vapour only

    neither are superheated or subcooled

    & therefore

    to go back to the question from Chef - #5

    They would both be plotted on a ph chart along their respective lines at the point of saturation

    ???????????
    Yes one would think so?????, unless someone can show something else??? and this is all chef was asking

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