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30-12-2002, 04:47 PM #1
Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
Hello
I am looking for a chart that will give me the line sizing from different pressure drop and temperature from the lbs/min of the HFC refrigerant (R-134a, R-404a, R410a). Such as the old ASRHAE RP 185 book and refrigerant line sizing (R-22, R-12, R-502, R717).
Best wishes for 2003
kathleen
Kathleen, P.eng
www.refri-ozone.com
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30-12-2002, 05:07 PM #2
Kathleen, ASHRAE's 2002 Refrigeration Handbook has published line capacities for for R-134a, R-404A, and R-410A (see chapter 2). You may also find Sporlan's Form 5-162 interesting. It lists line capacites for R-134a and R-404A, but not R-410A at the moment. It also contains useful refrigerant data, conversion factors, thermodynamic terms, etc. You local Sporlan rep or wholesaler can get this for you.
Prof Sporlan
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30-12-2002, 06:28 PM #3
Hello Prof sporlan,
In chapter 2 of ASRHAE they give a fast chart but not by lbs/min with different choice of pressure drop, therefore we can decide if it is better to increase or reduce the line sizing.
I do not have the sporlan one but I will ask for it. Because I would like to review my line sizing for the problem I have with capacity problem. And the chart I use was a fast one in tonnage only, with different line length and I think they might be to short. And a real flow density chart will be of good help.
best regards
KathleenKathleen, P.eng
www.refri-ozone.com
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30-12-2002, 07:51 PM #4
Hi, Kathleen
I don't use charts, I'am just to lazy to look them up. What I do use is a pipe sizing program from Danfoss called DirCal, this can be downloaded for free from there web site.
Danfoss Selection Software
Alternativly they may send it to you by post if you ask nicely.
If you have any problems on using it it drop me an email, it's very good when you get it figured out.
Regards. Andy.
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14-02-2007, 04:22 PM #5
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
can i have a copy of this software?
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14-02-2007, 07:22 PM #6
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
I receive my software which works really easy by my danfoss rep.
Kathleen, P.eng
www.refri-ozone.com
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14-02-2007, 07:54 PM #7
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
Hi Kathleen,
Glad to see that you resolved your query here and it's good to see you back with us.Brian - Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
Retired March 2015
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14-02-2007, 08:01 PM #8
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
Hi Brian
be sure refrigeration is my passion, I am always a email closedKathleen, P.eng
www.refri-ozone.com
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14-02-2007, 11:02 PM #9
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
Hi, Jahangir
Of, course
follow this link:
http://www.danfoss.com/United_Kingdo...tion+Tools.htm
register and download what you need.
CoolCat, ForeseeT, CoolSelector, RS+3, DIRCalc or DanCap™ 1.0
or this one:
http://www.danfoss.com/United_Kingdo...ters+Notes.htm
Very good fitters notes
Best regards, Josip
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15-02-2007, 09:25 AM #10
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
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15-02-2007, 09:27 AM #11
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15-02-2007, 09:35 AM #12
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17-02-2007, 04:17 PM #13
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
Hi, all
Sorry, above link is to an old Version of DirCalc113
Here is new Version DirCalc114
http://www.danfoss.com/NR/rdonlyres/...DirCalc114.zip
also for other software:
http://www.danfoss.com/Pacific/Busin...tion+Tools.htm
Best regards, JosipLast edited by Josip; 17-02-2007 at 04:18 PM. Reason: add new links
It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious...
Don't ever underestimate the power of stupid people when they are in large groups.
Please, don't teach me how to be stupid....
No job is as important as to jeopardize the safety of you or those that you work with.
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25-10-2007, 07:06 AM #14
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
hello there
How can i eliminate condensation in the ducting system. The ducting was locted near the kitchen it was insulated with 1" thick rubber insulation
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08-11-2007, 01:55 AM #15
Re: how to make a custom evaporator
I want to make a custom evaporator or barrel that works like a chiller I have a condensing unit of 30,000 BTU. with refrigerant 22, i need ideas for the calculation or how to do it.
Last edited by sanchezbond007; 08-11-2007 at 01:57 AM.
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06-12-2007, 04:44 PM #16
Re: Piping and line sizing for ammonia
Hi to all,
Anyone have the tables for sizing ammonia piping? I dont have the ASHRAE or IIAR handbook. So if somebody can pass me this information i will be very thankful
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06-12-2007, 10:54 PM #17
Re: Piping and line sizing for ammonia
It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious...
Don't ever underestimate the power of stupid people when they are in large groups.
Please, don't teach me how to be stupid....
No job is as important as to jeopardize the safety of you or those that you work with.
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15-12-2008, 11:26 AM #18
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
thanks buddy it is realy useful to me
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29-05-2009, 03:07 PM #19
Re: Piping and line sizing in lbs/min
Katleen,
Go to R717.com and apply for the Free Ammonia Refrigeration Piping Calculator.
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