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21-05-2006, 05:02 PM #1
Any body got any tools lying around?
Hi
If anybody has any installation tools suitable for R410
please give me a shout.
Particulary looking for pipe flaring kit, swaging kit, vac pump, recovery machine and scales
thanks.
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21-05-2006, 05:20 PM #2
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
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21-05-2006, 05:23 PM #3
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Particulary looking for pipe flaring kit, swaging kit, vac pump, recovery machine and scales
ChillinIF AT FIRST YOU DON`T SUCCEED.
DESTROY ALL EVIDENCE THAT YOU TRIED!
and go get a cuppa
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22-05-2006, 12:30 PM #4
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Originally Posted by cold as ice
Can anyone else confirm this?
We were also told existing vac pumps could be used if a solenoid was fitted so that if power was removed from the pump the solenoid would close eliminating the chance of oil entering the system via the vac pump.
Regards.
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22-05-2006, 06:53 PM #5
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
you will find you need new service manifold, and nitrogen gauge as test pressure for R410A systems is 42.5 bar (Mitsi) or 38bar (Daikin). Do not miss out on testing. Do not cut costs as cheap equipment could cost bad injury or worse when working at these pressures.
Regards
Chris
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22-05-2006, 07:23 PM #6
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
I was told by told at a training session by one of the larger manufacturers of aircon that you could use your existing flare block but you had to allow more pipe to protrude so that a larger flare face was achieved.
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22-05-2006, 09:45 PM #7
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Frank, It might make sense if it is intended for a double flare, but... if this was meant for a single flare I'm not sure I understand how how it would fit either.
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23-05-2006, 12:09 PM #8
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Originally Posted by frank
I'm pretty sure that I would know by now if I had made a flare too large.
I may be mistaken with the details but they definetely said that that we could use our existing flare blocks if we chose to do so.
Was wondering if anyone else here uses their existing blocks
Be honest...
There are still a lot of R22 units being installed in Australia.
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23-05-2006, 12:20 PM #9
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Just dug some information up from a service manual for use of HFC refrigerants R407C, R410A
This is a quote straight from the manual.
"Conventional flaring tools can be used for HFC's if the work process is changed.
(Change of work process)
Previously, a pipe extension margin of 0 to 0.5 mm was provided for flaring. For 410A air conditioners, perform pipe flaring with a pipe extension margin of 1.0 to 1.5 mm. (for clutch type only)
Jigs for pipe extension margin adjustment are available."
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23-05-2006, 06:00 PM #10
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
We started using the old flaring block out of necessity.
The wholesalers were sold out of the new ones when we looked for them.
We've been using them for about 18 months now with 410 and have had no problems at all.
Just make good flares and you'll be fine.
Think back to your apprentice days "don't over-tighten the punch when flaring as the pipe will need to be able to compensate for the imperfections in the fitting you are connecting to" or words to that effect.
And "make sure the edges of the flare can touch off the threads on the inside of the flare nut".
Also we use "leak lock" or similar.
Has always worked for us.If it was easy everyone would do it.
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23-05-2006, 06:41 PM #11
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
thanks for the comments guys- much appreciated!
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01-06-2006, 03:23 PM #12
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Originally Posted by cold as ice
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11-07-2006, 12:02 AM #13
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Originally Posted by Ireland
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12-07-2006, 09:13 AM #14
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Originally Posted by cold as ice
yes i have, can you IM me?
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17-10-2006, 02:00 PM #15
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Hey Temprite we meet again or should I call U Glycol man now ? , I guess there are Temprites are still chugging away in the older pubs somewhere . Come to think of it we are all chugging away in this industry . Now its heating up in OZ , everybody wants to be nice to the fridgy .
Re the 410 questions - Yes I use the same flaring tools I always did but its a good quality Robinair sliding block type. As far as soleniod on vac pumps , havent heard that one . Lets face it how many systems are you going to vac overnight that run on R410 , not too many so just vac it out while you have a breather or several smokes . Many units come with " bleed the pipes " instructions so to vac out is like the holy grail of installation compared to home handyman installerLast edited by Toolman; 17-10-2006 at 02:10 PM.
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18-10-2006, 09:17 AM #16
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18-10-2006, 02:15 PM #17
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
Hey Irish click on the " POST REPLY" button instead of writing in the Quick Reply box. You will see there are more icons there just click on the one with the paperclip and select your pics to post. You need to make them small pics , cant remember the size it will tell you somewhere .
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18-10-2006, 02:17 PM #18
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
like this one this is the best tool I have lying around hehe
Last edited by Toolman; 18-10-2006 at 02:23 PM.
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19-10-2006, 09:49 AM #19
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
I'll give it a try.
But probably not today....If it was easy everyone would do it.
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19-10-2006, 09:50 AM #20
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
I suppose I managed to do the Avatar so I should be able to sort the thumbnails as well.
If it was easy everyone would do it.
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20-10-2006, 07:26 AM #21
Re: Any body got any tools lying around?
and That Is A Nice Avatar Image
Last edited by Toolman; 20-10-2006 at 07:29 AM.
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