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Thread: retro fit r22 to r410a
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22-10-2007, 04:41 PM #1
retro fit r22 to r410a
hi,would it be ok to use exsisting piework from r22 to r410a provided i flush pipework?
rgrds phil
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22-10-2007, 08:14 PM #2
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
Hi Phil
Are there some problems involved in replacing the pipework?
I have flushed lots of pipe in the past for various reasons and allways used endoflush, allthough not as good as the old R11.
It would be good practice to replace if possible.
Regards
PP
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22-10-2007, 11:02 PM #3
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
Hi Phil,
R-410A’s pressures are about 50% higher than R-22. That's why R-410A cannot be used as a retrofit fluid in R-22 equipment. This is also true for pressure gauges, recovery tanks, recycling units, disposable cylinders, etc. A better solution to retrofit for R-22 equipment, is you could use R-407C and 417A to retrofit of A/C units, while for refrigeration, R-404A and 507A are available
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22-10-2007, 11:44 PM #4
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
As long as the existing pipework is the size that is required for the new system then you will be fine with a flush...make sure you blow the lines out very well with nitrogen. Also make sure you install filter dryer and your purge nitrogen during brazing. Then when done with brazing make sure you pull a vacuum of between 250-500 microns and that it holds that with the vacuum pump turned off and everything equalized you may want to keep it above 4000 microns for a good bit to make sure you do not freeze any moisture in the system from pulling a vacuum to quick. Come back after a week of running and change the filter dryer. This may seem excessive but better to do it once then have to do it twice.
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23-10-2007, 12:09 AM #5
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
WHY???????
Ian
What is wrong with 407??
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23-10-2007, 12:10 AM #6
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
Is it a retro fit or a complete change out of equipment?
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25-10-2007, 11:39 AM #7
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
hi, just doing a swap on a little split system,...weighed in endoflush and weighed it back out and blew the be jesus out of the pipe work wit ofn and gave it a vac to0 400microns so i sure it will be good..
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27-10-2007, 10:31 PM #8
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
Mitsubishi has special AC with special build in filters to flush the excisting system.
http://www.mitsubishi-aircon.co.uk/d....asp?id=152713 in the middle of the pageIt's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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28-10-2007, 01:19 AM #9
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
If the lineset is of adequate size and is in good condition, an R-11 flush would be acceptable, IMO.
I witness many competitors here in the states that do not even use a flush kit and simply purge with nitrogen. Many do not nitrogen sweep while brazing either. Bad decisions.
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28-10-2007, 08:26 AM #10
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
Flush with R11?
We even can't buy this for many years in our country.
The ODP's of all the refrigerants are compared to R11 and you still flush with R11?It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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28-10-2007, 08:29 AM #11
Re: retro fit r22 to r410a
Probably meant RX-11
http://ftp.nucalgon.com/ftp/prodlit/3-112.pdf
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