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    The application that I need is to use the secondery refrigerant to flow from the main receiver to the commercial refrigerators at -20 C. then returns back to the receiver to be recooled again, and so on.

    what is the suitable secondary refrigerant or refrigerants????

    Thanks alot for your hounored forum....

    Eng. Nedal Iben Ali



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    Re: Central Refrigeration Systems

    A glycol mixture if there isn't any food there.

    If there is food then industrial (~60% proof) alcohol.

    (Just make sure that the engineers mix it with water before they drink whatever didn't go in to the system, at 60% proof it will burn your tongue or at least it will feel that way)

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    Re: Central Refrigeration Systems

    Hi, Nedal Iben Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedal Iben Ali View Post
    The application that I need is to use the secondery refrigerant to flow from the main receiver to the commercial refrigerators at -20 C. then returns back to the receiver to be recooled again, and so on.

    what is the suitable secondary refrigerant or refrigerants????

    Thanks alot for your hounored forum....

    Eng. Nedal Iben Ali
    Can you tell us what is your primary refrigerant and why you need to use the secondary refrigerant?

    Please, can you explain your project little more and help us to give you right answer/s.

    Best regards, Josip

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    MY SYSTEM WILL WORK BY THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE:

    1- THERE IS TWO MAIN PARTS OF THE CENTRAL
    REFRIGERATION SYSTEM THAT I WORK ON. THE
    FIRST ONE IS THE MAIN REFRIGERATING SYSTEM,
    WHICH INCLUDES COMPRESSOR AND SHELL TUBE
    EVAPORATOR AND REST COMPONENTS. SECOND
    PART IS CONSISTED OF RECIVER TANK AND
    SECONDARY REFRIGERANT PIPING TO THE
    REFRIGERATED ENVELOPES.

    2- THE PRINCIBLE OF WORKING IS TO COOL THE
    SECONDERY MEDIUM TO LOW TEMPERATURES (-
    22 c) , THEN CIRCULATE IT WITHEN A CIRCUIT
    FROM THE RECEIVER TO THE REFRIGERATED
    ENVELOPES AND BACK TO THE RECIEVER.

    3- WHEN THE SECONDARY REFRIGERANT
    TEMPERATURE DROPS BELOW -14 C. THE
    COMPRESSOR WILL START WORKING AND THE
    COOLING MEDIUM (SECONDERY REFRIGERANT)
    STARTS TO FLOW FROM THE RECIEVER TANK TO
    THE EVAPORATOR (SHELL AND TUBE) AND BACK
    UNTIL REACHING -22 C.


    WHAT IS THE MOST SUITABLE COOLING MIDIUM OR SECONDARY REFRIGERANT THAT COULD BE USED FOR THIS WORKING CONDITIONS ((doesn't freeze or chimically active))

    Eng. Nedal Iben Ali

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    Hi, Eng. Nedal Iben Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedal Iben Ali View Post
    MY SYSTEM WILL WORK BY THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE:

    1- THERE IS TWO MAIN PARTS OF THE CENTRAL
    REFRIGERATION SYSTEM THAT I WORK ON. THE
    FIRST ONE IS THE MAIN REFRIGERATING SYSTEM,
    WHICH INCLUDES COMPRESSOR AND SHELL TUBE
    EVAPORATOR AND REST COMPONENTS. SECOND
    PART IS CONSISTED OF RECIVER TANK AND
    SECONDARY REFRIGERANT PIPING TO THE
    REFRIGERATED ENVELOPES.

    2- THE PRINCIBLE OF WORKING IS TO COOL THE
    SECONDERY MEDIUM TO LOW TEMPERATURES (-
    22 c) , THEN CIRCULATE IT WITHEN A CIRCUIT
    FROM THE RECEIVER TO THE REFRIGERATED
    ENVELOPES AND BACK TO THE RECIEVER.

    3- WHEN THE SECONDARY REFRIGERANT
    TEMPERATURE DROPS BELOW -14 C. THE
    COMPRESSOR WILL START WORKING AND THE
    COOLING MEDIUM (SECONDERY REFRIGERANT)
    STARTS TO FLOW FROM THE RECIEVER TANK TO
    THE EVAPORATOR (SHELL AND TUBE) AND BACK
    UNTIL REACHING -22 C.


    WHAT IS THE MOST SUITABLE COOLING MIDIUM OR SECONDARY REFRIGERANT THAT COULD BE USED FOR THIS WORKING CONDITIONS ((doesn't freeze or chimically active))

    Eng. Nedal Iben Ali
    Nice explanation,.... (see this, please: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/do-not-use-all-capitals.html),

    but you said nothing about your plant i.e. primary refrigerant and utility for secondary one..

    Anyhow you can use...

    water solution of calcium chloride (CaCl2) or sodium chloride (NaCl)...

    water solution of glycols - ethylene or propylene....don't forget inhibitors

    halocarbon like methylene chloride, trichloroethylene or

    non halocarbons like d-limonene, polydimethylsiloxane...

    each one is good, further more very good...

    ....BUT...

    you must find all properties about each one of secondary refrigerant and choose the best one for your system.

    It is not an easy answer and you have to spend some time on research, we cannot design you system just give some help

    If you took some time and make searching on this forum for sure you should find a lot about secondary refrigerants...

    Best regards, Josip

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