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    making an air condition for area 5m3



    Dear All

    kindly i would like to ask if i can make a small air condition project for 5m3 area using 1/3 or 1/2 HP refrigerator compressor

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    WHY?


    Just buy a cheap 2.6kW AC and have done with it!

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Not really, a refrigerator compressor has a duty of maybe 350W and you need something around 2600W or more.
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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    I would say yes, but i don't know how.

    5m3 equates, using the old rule of thumb to 361w so Brian's 350w is nearer than a 2.6kw el cheepo.

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Quote Originally Posted by mmtronic View Post
    Dear All

    kindly i would like to ask if i can make a small air condition project for 5m3 area using 1/3 or 1/2 HP refrigerator compressor

    Best regards
    Hi mmtronic

    As it may be known the rule of thumb for cooling load estimation is 150 W/m2 for ordinary room and 190 W/m2 for computer room. Therefore, according to ur project case the minimum cooling capacity is 2.25 kW corresponding to almost 0.9 kW (1.25 HP). Accordingly, ur proposal of 1/3 or 1/2 HP will be undersized.

    Thank u

    kind regards

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Quote Originally Posted by mohamed khamis View Post
    Hi mmtronic

    As it may be known the rule of thumb for cooling load estimation is 150 W/m2 for ordinary room and 190 W/m2 for computer room. Therefore, according to ur project case the minimum cooling capacity is 2.25 kW corresponding to almost 0.9 kW (1.25 HP). Accordingly, ur proposal of 1/3 or 1/2 HP will be undersized.

    Thank u

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    thx so much for the information that is what i want to know

    thx again

    Mohamed Mostafa

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Quote Originally Posted by mohamed khamis View Post
    Hi mmtronic

    As it may be known the rule of thumb for cooling load estimation is 150 W/m2 for ordinary room and 190 W/m2 for computer room. Therefore, according to ur project case the minimum cooling capacity is 2.25 kW corresponding to almost 0.9 kW (1.25 HP). Accordingly, ur proposal of 1/3 or 1/2 HP will be undersized.

    Thank u

    kind regards
    These rules of thumb are only valid in your country. In our country, they should be oversized.
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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    at risk of not succeding (The best learning tool imo) I would say try geting two 1/2HP units and making a dual compressor system, if one has the parts why not play to see what creature you can create

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Quote Originally Posted by mmtronic View Post
    thx so much for the information that is what i want to know

    thx again

    Mohamed Mostafa
    Hi mohamed

    you welcome i wish it could help u and check this thread it may also help u.

    http://www.refrigeration-engineer.co...ght=rule+thumb

    best wishes

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Hi mohamed

    when i read ur previous post mentioning area 5m3 i supposed u meant the room area (5*3m) so the previous calculation was based on that. However, when i read another uncompleted thread in which u mentioned that the room size (2.8*1.3*1.3 m) corresponding to 5 m3 as volume not area i realize that ur room area is 3.64 m2. Anyhow, the new calculation is
    cooling load = 150 W/m2 * 3.64 m2 = 0.546 kW

    Compressor input power (roughly) = 0.546 / 2.5 (average COP) = 0.218 kW = 0.29 HP....that means the 1/2 HP could be sufficient for ur project.

    Cheers

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_1 View Post
    These rules of thumb are only valid in your country. In our country, they should be oversized.
    Hi Peter_1

    Thanks for ur input. I know the site location "latitude and site orientations" has an important role in the cooling load estimation. However, this rule of thumb which i have mentioned is a roughly estimation for load calculation and is not a precise method. It just gives some light for load calculation.

    Cheers

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    Re: making an air condition for area 5m3

    Dear Mohamed ,

    Thx so much for ur help ....ur last messege make me so happy cos u confirm the idea with using 1/2 hp compressor ( reducing the total power consumption in watt ) for area (2.8*1.3*1.3m) and the next step to me as i mention in the stopped thread is to calculate the length of copper pips in condenser and evaporator for this project ...........i need help in this part to complete design and have the whole image for the project and to start making it and any comment for my project will be appreciated .


    Best regards

    Mohamed Mostafa
    Last edited by mmtronic; 11-06-2007 at 08:42 PM.

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