Recommend me a handbook please

[Prof Sporlan]

The Prof appears to be an INTJ also: 78 22 89 78. Move over Hannibal

[Gary]

I have to admit the iNTj description fits me pretty well. Especially the reluctant leader thing. I'll take over if I must, but I don't have to like it. I'm not sure I agree with the "mastermind" label. I have heard the iNTj called the "scientist", and that seems more to the point.

[RogGoetsch]

Originally posted by chemi-cool
hi roger,

if I could write in english as you do.
what I think and feel, would come very much the same.

very well written.

chemi

Wull thankee fer them-there purty words!

Oops, had Spell/Grammar Check turned off.

Hmmmm. 44, 56, 1, 1

INTJ? Different numbers, same result?

[rbartlett]

MBTI Survey Results For richard bartlett
Friday, February 20, 2004 at 08:21:52 (GMT)

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E : 60 %
S : 40 %
T : 50 %
J : 70 %

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Mel O'Brien & Associates
International Management Development & Change Consultants

i can't remember the jung test results

cheers


richard

[REL]

MBTI Survey Results For Rich Lofftus
Friday, February 20, 2004 at 22:41:30 (GMT)

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I : 20 %
S : 50 %
T : 100 %
J : 70 %

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Mel O'Brien & Associates
International Management Development & Change Consultants

[WebRam]

E : 80 %
N : 80 %
F : 50 %
P : 40 %


Man, I hope that does not mean I am a hippy

[Prof Sporlan]

The Prof probably relies too heavily on processes or rule sets he knows to work well. It's like getting it working first, and then pondering the underlying principles later to make it more elegant. Now where's that rare lamb?

[Abe]

E: 40%
N: 30%
T: 30%
J 50%

ENTJ

Mel O Brien Associates

I did the test 07:00 hrs crack of dawn......with a clear head and brain uncluttered with cigarette smoke.......so am hoping this is a better result for me

[chemi-cool]

test results for chemi,

E : 60 %
S : 10 %
T : 40 %
J : 80 %

Mel O'Brien associates

[Abe]

Jung Test

Completed questionaire after absorbing questions more carefully

ENTJ

Extroverted 11
Intuvitive 33
Thinking 56
Judging 33

[Abe]

Both Mel O Brien and Jung make me an ENTJ
Ive read the report......it says we make up only 2 percent of the worlds population!!

Am I unique or what???

Thats settled it.......

Here world.......Here I come!!!

[grabber01]

11 11 22 78 BAD OR WHAT !!!!!

[Peter_1]

Originally posted by Peter_1
Did twice the test with 2 hours between them
1st time:
1 - 44 - 22 - 56

2nd time
11 - 33 - 56 -33

But I stays in both tests an ENFJ type or Teacher type according to Keirsey (whoever she or he may be)

So what's next now?

Sorry Mark,
Deleted it accidentaly: what's you fathers advice for me?
If there's any of course

[Gary]

My father is very introverted, always on his own sitting and pondering, however, when he is leacturing he is one big dramatical act and he says it is acheived by exactly that, acting the part even though it feels wrong

I can certainly relate to that. I am a background type person often thrust into the foreground by necessity. I can't think of anything I dread more than speaking in front of large groups, yet I have done so. It requires a mask, simulating a major personality transformation.

[Mark]

Your Type is
ENTJ
Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
22 22 1 67


ENTJ type description by D.Keirsey
ENTJ type description by J. Butt



Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
slightly expressed extrovert

slightly expressed intuitive personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

distinctively expressed judging personality

[Gary]

I think the TECH Method Lesson Series is a must for 99% of Tech's, perhaps just 98% - somewhere there

I would estimate that 90% of the techs out there believe themselves to be part of the 1-2%, or maybe its 85% - somewhere there

Thinking there must be a mathematical formula for this phenomenon.

[Mark]

Marc valid and totally true statements,
The first engineer i worked with as an apprentice told me
"mark when you first get to a job, leave the tools in the van"
The rest is self explanitory I see your point marc

regards mark

[Gary]

Let's say we buy a car. All of a sudden, we start seeing that same make and model car all over the highways. They were there all along. What changed was our focus.

Perhaps a better example: We attend a training seminar, presented by a parts manufacturer. He teaches us to look for certain problems involving his product. We start finding those very problems wherever we go. The problems were there all along. What changed was our focus.

I am fairly certain that some of my readers, having learned by the numbers I give them, subsequently revert to the 'laying on of hands'. I like to think that they, more than others, know exactly where to place their calibrated fingertips, and what it all means. It's a matter of focus, albeit somewhat less accurate.

[Gary]

And then there are the numbers themselves. I might say, if this number is exceeded, there is insufficient condenser airflow. Is this true? How bad is bad? How dirty is dirty? I give you a pretty good number. It works, but it is not chizeled in granite, nor handed down from above.

There is a middle ground between going by the numbers and the laying on of hands, and there are situations where one or the other, or some combination, makes more sense, but everyone should learn the more accurate methods. They will learn inappropriate short-cuts soon enough.

[Gary]

While we are on the subject of numbers, the numbers I give you are not going to work on all systems. I give you a very thorough and versatile trouble shooting procedure. I show you how to adapt that procedure to fit a wide variety of typical systems. What happens if you are working on a system that is not in the book? Feel free to adapt. Feel free to erase those numbers and put in some that are relevant to that particular system. Write a new chapter. I showed you how.

As REL has pointed out, I give you a path. Don't hesitate to write your own signposts along that path.

[Gary]

I would hesitate to dispute the value of standing and watching, and in fact this is not incompatible with the TECH Method. As you know, in the T-E-C-H sequence, the T, E, and C are visual inspections of the system. It is not until the H (Heat measurements) that we measure temperatures and pressures. By this point I have usually fixed whatever stopped the system, and am now using the numbers to find more subtle additional problems, as well as fine tune the system.

Many see me asking for the numbers online, and assume that this is all it is; A 'by the numbers' method. Wrong. It is much more than that, but when you are trouble shooting online, you can't see it from here. There is no laying on of hands. The numbers are the only means by which the system operation can be communicated.

[WebRam]

I bloody knew it ..... I'm a hippy .......

Oh well, peace out everyone, someone pass me a dooby

[Gary]

Marc has the dooby, Des. He is standing in the doorway with it, gathering vibes from the cooling system.

Good good good... good vibrations... da da da da da... good good good... good vibrations...

[WebRam]

oh thats me all over Marc

man this dooby is kicking in just nice, thanks Gary

[REL]

Originally posted by Gary
I would estimate that 90% of the techs out there believe themselves to be part of the 1-2%, or maybe its 85% - somewhere there

Thinking there must be a mathematical formula for this phenomenon.

"Charge it up to 70 psig and get out of there"
"we are not going to replace the compressor, sell em a new unit"
"replace the fan and get over to xxx address"
"I have been in this business 15 years, just do what I said and get to the next call"

The US has become a throw away place to live. A unit that is 12 years old used to be a repairable item, now it is almost without question that if it is over 7 years old, toss it. Equipment has come down in price that such decisions are often practical.

Because of mentoring falling into statements like above, and a lot more companies adopting a philosphy like the second paragraph, I offer 90% of the techs not only feel they are in that 1 to 2%, they are told they ARE in the top positions.

Evaluations on abilites and attitude are gone. Now it is profitability and salesmanship. VCR's, DVD players, TV's, home appliances, you name it and odds are, you may well replace it cheaper than you can repair it. It has come to the home central air system, and it is increasing. I would not be overly surprised to see Areo-Quip fitting line sets and condensing unit / cased evaps with flexible adapters become a thing real soon. One simple backage installed with a cordless drill and crescent wrench.

Yes, there will always be a need for those who truely do understand what is happening, how it is happening, and why it is happening, but that very NEED may actually be shrinking.

[rbartlett]

He says Richard Bartlett must have had a job change to go from and I to an E, I told him that Richard was now a branch manager and he said "Yes, that fits"



is this a good thing or a bad thing taking all things into consideration past present and future....??

oh and i bet he still hasn't read 'indecent exposure' which say's a lot about a person than any mumbo jumbo

cheers

richard

[Deejey]

The refrigeration Technicians pocket book was an excellent reference book especially for control settings etc. It was written by Paul B Reid and I used to have a copy...long time ago....Like Gary says there is nothing out there worth considering that is essentialy trouble shooting with out all the "nice to know" stuff in it instead of basic "need to know".

[Gary]

The refrigeration Technicians pocket book was an excellent reference book especially for control settings etc. It was written by Paul B Reid and I used to have a copy...long time ago....Like Gary says there is nothing out there worth considering that is essentialy trouble shooting with out all the "nice to know" stuff in it instead of basic "need to know".

Back when I wrote my first book, I was advised by marketing "experts" to double its size, padding it out with long-winded explanations and extraneous materials in order to compete with the BIG books. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Instead, I padded it out with useful stuff like index dividers and laminated covers. The text is still "need to know".

[mk98064]

Hi Gary, I am looking for your books as Ive seen posted before, have done Doolins but believe a tech approach is best, can you direct toi where I have seen them posted before< thank you and its cold this week in this corner

[Gary]

Hi Gary, I am looking for your books as Ive seen posted before, have done Doolins but believe a tech approach is best, can you direct toi where I have seen them posted before< thank you and its cold this week in this corner

My books are available here:

http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/se...com/StoreFront

[Colin G]

My books are available here:

http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/se...com/StoreFront

Will see how flush i am on payday, wouldnt mind a set of them books, is it same carrier fee to scotland?

[Gary]

Will see how flush i am on payday, wouldnt mind a set of them books, is it same carrier fee to scotland?

At the end of the ordering process, choose the flat rate shipping option. It is much cheaper than UPS outside the US... but we should not be discussing this in open forum, lest I be accused of advertising.

[mk98064]

copy, thanks. I have looked at others such as doolins and learned some but sounds your trouble shooting aproach is more what I need

[Toosh]

At the end of the ordering process, choose the flat rate shipping option. It is much cheaper than UPS outside the US... but we should not be discussing this in open forum, lest I be accused of advertising.

Gotcha

haha

[jeanlee411]

Was that for me REL?

I might add this, I am only who I am, I am not really subject to a lot of change and I value honesty above any other quality.

Without regard for wat anyone might think, I pretty much figure if you met me, the qualities and imperfections would be clear.