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08-12-2006, 01:42 PM #1
pid control
Anyone know of a good source of either PID parameters for various controlled fluids or a plain explanation of how to determine the P, I, D values
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08-12-2006, 06:09 PM #2
Re: pid control
On one of the technical leaflets of Eliwell (INvensys) or Dixell is explained how you can do this.
But even the, it stays always a little bit trial and error.
You just can't calculate this on forehand. You first have to look how fast the process is changing and how far the overshoots are in simple on/off (mostly with on/off settings or setting the PID in such a way that it acts as simple on/off)
Then you can calculate better how to set the PID.
That's anyway how we do it and how it's described in some handbooks.It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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08-12-2006, 06:21 PM #3
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http://aabi.tripod.com/optimumpid/ex...-pid-egnsr.htm
http://lorien.ncl.ac.uk/ming/pid/PID.pdf
http://www.lakeshore.com/pdf_files/A...ppendixF_l.pdf
http://www.advice1.com/pid.htm
http://home.hccnet.nl/e.vd.logt/htm/regelen_pid_uk.htm
The explanation of Eliwell or Dixell was a more practical one. Haven't time now to serach for it.It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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28-05-2007, 09:25 AM #4
Re: pid control
Thanks Peter!
No problem fgrgrcprklmnIt's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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28-05-2007, 03:08 PM #5
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You are welcome Peter. It seems you found another thankful customer.
If all else fails, ask for help.
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28-05-2007, 05:01 PM #6
Re: pid control
Makes you feel like making the first reply as "Yes I have and you?"
Brian - Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
Retired March 2015
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28-05-2007, 09:24 PM #7
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Will do this the next time they make the first time a post like this.
It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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07-09-2007, 05:30 PM #8
Re: pid control
Hello All,
as far as I know the Eliwell controllers that has the PID management has also the self-tunning alghoritm, so it's not needed to calculate the right setting but just a fine tunning might be done manually