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    Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area



    Hello and firstly what a great community. I hope this is in the correct topic and would be grateful if a Mod could relocate if its not.

    Ok a little about me, I have just left the Royal Marines and wish to take a step into a career in which i would enjoy. Air conditioning is it

    I haven't any training however for the past year my hobby has been making Phase coolers for my friends which cool the CPU on PC's.
    I have just progressed onto a cascade cooler in which the 1st stage runs R507a and 2nd stage Ethylene. which after a volumetric efficiency of 0.3 - 0.5 it should have a real capacity of between 215w and 358w at -100oC.

    Anyway thats just a little of what i have been up to, If anyone could take me on or recommend me to a colleague i would be more than grateful.

    "Oh and i did plan to do a 10day air conditioning course with my resettlement money from the Forces, However it cant be spent on anything below a NVQ3" .



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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    I would post Pics however it has that 15day rule on this forum

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Hi, 4Qman

    Welcome to RE forums... the first one is New to RE

    http://www.refrigeration-engineer.co...splay.php?f=72
    but here you are at door next to

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    Hello and firstly what a great community. I hope this is in the correct topic and would be grateful if a Mod could relocate if its not.

    Ok a little about me, I have just left the Royal Marines and wish to take a step into a career in which i would enjoy. Air conditioning is it

    I haven't any training however for the past year my hobby has been making Phase coolers for my friends which cool the CPU on PC's.
    I have just progressed onto a cascade cooler in which the 1st stage runs R507a and 2nd stage Ethylene. which after a volumetric efficiency of 0.3 - 0.5 it should have a real capacity of between 215w and 358w at -100oC.

    Anyway thats just a little of what i have been up to, If anyone could take me on or recommend me to a colleague i would be more than grateful.

    "Oh and i did plan to do a 10day air conditioning course with my resettlement money from the Forces, However it cant be spent on anything below a NVQ3" .
    Some guys will come with good suggestion where&how to use your money

    Best regards, Josip

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    The money is £1000 and it can be spent on courses that are listed on the scheme. Which are NVQ3 equivalent.

    Trouble is finding a course on the scheme thats worth doing that makes the most of the 1time payment of up to £1000.

    ie a £100 course takes my £1000 credit.

    Thanks again dude.

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Hi, 4Qman

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    I would post Pics however it has that 15day rule on this forum
    I think it is only 15 posts rule and not 15 days or I miss some new rules

    Best regards, Josip

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by Josip View Post
    Hi, 4Qman



    I think it is only 15 posts rule and not 15 days or I miss some new rules

    Best regards, Josip
    Sorry mate i worded it wrong. 15 posts it is. Nearly there

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by Josip View Post
    Hi, 4Qman



    I think it is only 15 posts rule and not 15 days or I miss some new rules

    Best regards, Josip

    I'd advise you to look at his first post Josip.
    Ex Royal Marine
    If he says its 15 days then its 15 days

    Cheers taz.
    Last edited by taz24; 15-05-2007 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    Hello and firstly what a great community. I hope this is in the correct topic and would be grateful if a Mod could relocate if its not.

    "Oh and i did plan to do a 10day air conditioning course with my resettlement money from the Forces, However it cant be spent on anything below a NVQ3" .

    You could get a level III if you could prove to a collage that you have enough experience or cross over quals to skip the level II.
    If you have a level II in other engineering subjects you may be able to go straight to level III.
    If you have no prior achievements then you will need to do level II.

    All the best taz.

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    Hi 4Qman,

    If you contact ***PM USER WITH DETAILS*** he would be happy to meet you (also ex-forces btw). Its not straight air-con work, but much more interesting Also training would be available

    cheers

    Andy P
    Last edited by WebRam; 24-05-2007 at 12:47 PM. Reason: dont post names and phone numbers on a live forum

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Hi, Taz24

    Quote Originally Posted by taz24 View Post
    I'd advise you to look at his first post Josip.
    Ex Royal Marine
    If he says its 15 days then its 15 days

    Cheers taz.
    , but you said that, I must be more careful next time

    Best regards, Josip

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    HI,
    I am also Xforces and I completed a 2 week course at "Techtrain" in doncaster. This covered Refrigeration theory, basic electrics, Split systems, (You even Fit one) lots of practical on a working refrigerator. Filter Cx, Pressure checking, Recovering Refrigerant etc etc. With it I did the 16th Edition Electrical Theory (A lot of finding info in 2 manuals that you practise so the exam was not too bad) This is a Level 3 so the whole course comes under Level 3. You get CIB ID REFRIGERATION and C&G Certificates. I used both my £534 and the ELC of £1000 on this but it was very good.

    Ian (Ex Raf off to OZ Perth in 53days and I still need a job!!! Hint !!! )


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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy P View Post
    Hi 4Qman,

    If you contact he would be happy to meet you (also ex-forces btw). Its not straight air-con work, but much more interesting Also training would be available

    cheers

    Andy P
    Andy what can i say apart from i am gobsmaked and indeed very grateful. However i am in Essex area dude. I noticed your from Scotland I'm not at the point of running away from my bird yet, YET i add carefully.hehe Unless Essex area as well?

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by Iug1964 View Post
    HI,
    I am also Xforces and I completed a 2 week course at "Techtrain" in doncaster. This covered Refrigeration theory, basic electrics, Split systems, (You even Fit one) lots of practical on a working refrigerator. Filter Cx, Pressure checking, Recovering Refrigerant etc etc. With it I did the 16th Edition Electrical Theory (A lot of finding info in 2 manuals that you practise so the exam was not too bad) This is a Level 3 so the whole course comes under Level 3. You get CIB ID REFRIGERATION and C&G Certificates. I used both my £534 and the ELC of £1000 on this but it was very good.

    Ian (Ex Raf off to OZ Perth in 53days and I still need a job!!! Hint !!! )

    Hi Ian. yes i have seen the company in the magazine i received when i left listing the courses. Emm. Problem is mate i tried to get on the 9day Course "think its the same one" and my X base told me they wont let me do the air conditioning courses As people in the past had been having the air conditioning and electrical course merged to make it level 3.

    This make sense to you dude.?

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by taz24 View Post
    You could get a level III if you could prove to a collage that you have enough experience or cross over quals to skip the level II.
    If you have a level II in other engineering subjects you may be able to go straight to level III.
    If you have no prior achievements then you will need to do level II.

    All the best taz.
    Emm see the problem is i don't have any experience with air conditioning as a trade. All i know is what i have learned from the Internet and from practice So level 2 which is a 9 day introduction and safe handling course would be perfect.
    To be honest i would pay the £1200 to do the course but i would sooner a company invest in my learning. "To put it nice"

    Oh and don't worry they took my rifle back when i left

    Oh 1 more post and i can get some pics up of my project

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Ok i got my 15 posts and have started a thread here with my latest project.

    http://www.refrigeration-engineer.co...7363#post67363

    Post there regards your thoughts please.

    Oh and thanks again to all you who have posted and been so kind. Really appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    Oh and thanks again to all you who have posted and been so kind. Really appreciated.
    There are companies that offer specific tailor made 5, 7 and 10 day courses that are aimed at the forces for re training.
    The forces pay all the fees and the quals at the end are gas handle, pipework brazing, and a resonable understanding of refrigeration / air conditioning.
    I know of three but they are in the Yorkshire area so I do not know how you feel about lodgin away for a few nights.
    These must be classed as level three because thy are aimed at the forces.

    Cheers taz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taz24 View Post
    There are companies that offer specific tailor made 5, 7 and 10 day courses that are aimed at the forces for re training.
    The forces pay all the fees and the quals at the end are gas handle, pipework brazing, and a resonable understanding of refrigeration / air conditioning.
    I know of three but they are in the Yorkshire area so I do not know how you feel about lodgin away for a few nights.
    These must be classed as level three because thy are aimed at the forces.

    Cheers taz.
    They aint mate, they are level 2 I have tryed to enlist on them but i cant due to level 2 only.

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    Andy what can i say apart from i am gobsmaked and indeed very grateful. However i am in Essex area dude. I noticed your from Scotland I'm not at the point of running away from my bird yet, YET i add carefully.hehe Unless Essex area as well?
    Take a look at the area code, it's for an Oxfordshire number.

    Star refrigeration are all over UK (http://www.star-ref.co.uk/)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillin out View Post
    Take a look at the area code, it's for an Oxfordshire number.

    Star refrigeration are all over UK (http://www.star-ref.co.uk/)

    Chillin
    Will call Monday, than you a bunch. Shall i just say i got the number from you mate.

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Hello 4Qman,

    HI,
    I am also Xforces and I completed a 2 week course at "Techtrain" in doncaster. This covered Refrigeration theory, basic electrics, Split systems, (You even Fit one) lots of practical on a working refrigerator. Filter Cx, Pressure checking, Recovering Refrigerant etc etc. With it I did the 16th Edition Electrical Theory (A lot of finding info in 2 manuals that you practise so the exam was not too bad) This is a Level 3 so the whole course comes under Level 3. You get CIB ID REFRIGERATION and C&G Certificates. I used both my £534 and the ELC of £1000 on this but it was very good.
    Talk to Techtrain and they will sort it out so you can use your level 3 money and resettlement money, correctly and within the rules.
    Tony

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Hello 4Qman,



    Talk to Techtrain and they will sort it out so you can use your level 3 money and resettlement money, correctly and within the rules.
    I will call tomorrow and discuss my options. Will let you know how it goes.

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Hi,4QMan. I want to ask you:for which purpose did you design your cascade machine? And why did you chose R507a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVaider View Post
    Hi,4QMan. I want to ask you:for which purpose did you design your cascade machine? And why did you chose R507a?
    Its designed to cool a Quad core CPU which generates around 250w+.

    I choose R507a as its a little better than R404a and its the best my TEV is rated for

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    Re: Anyone Take on XForces Lad - UK-Essex Area

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    Its designed to cool a Quad core CPU which generates around 250w+.

    I choose R507a as its a little better than R404a and its the best my TEV is rated for
    Hi,4Qman. For which temperature level (temperature of evaporation and condensation of R507a) your machine has been designed? I mean you may choose better and cheaper refrigerant instead R507a azeotrope.

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