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    New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!



    Hi All
    My name is Glenn. I have worked in the industrial Air Conditioning industry since 1987. I am technical director of a medium size company in UK specialising in the “black art” of psychrometrics. We design and supply desiccant dehumidification systems for commercial and industrial applications (to minus 40°Cdp). The use of desiccant dehumidifiers for humidity control in cold stores and loading bays has increased over the past 5 years, so for what it’s worth, if you need help or advice I would be happy to share my experiences with you.



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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Hi Glenn,

    Welcome to the RE.

    Another area expert joined the group.

    Hope you enjoy this site.

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    Hey Glenn, welcome to the site.
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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Welcome...You should enjoy it here.

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Psychro,welcome from Belgium.
    We 've installed some Munters in the past for the Belgium Army and did also the leak tests on the building. (air tightness)
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    Hi Glenn and a warm (dry/moist) welcome to the forum.
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    Hi, Glenn

    Welcome to RE forums.

    Best regards, Josip

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Welcome Glenn.

    "dark world of Psychrometrics" is right!

    This is one topic that always leaves me asking more questions. I suppose it might help if I used it more often though.

    Do you have any good recommendations for reading material? Thanks.
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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Hi ya Glenn,

    Welcome to the club.

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Quote Originally Posted by US Iceman View Post
    Welcome Glenn.

    "dark world of Psychrometrics" is right!

    This is one topic that always leaves me asking more questions. I suppose it might help if I used it more often though.

    Do you have any good recommendations for reading material? Thanks.
    I got some info on this book. I am bout to order I believe came from a very knowledgeable person on another forum I check out.

    "I would recommend Norm Christopherson's book "Airside System Analysis"
    http://www.lamabooks.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=233

    If interested...of course. I would like to hear Psychro's idea on this book or if he knows of it.
    Last edited by BigJon3475; 11-05-2007 at 04:09 AM.

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    I think anyone with a background in desiccants could teach lama books a thing or two.

    Welcome glenn, I live and breathe pyschrometrics myself.

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Hi Glenn n Welcum

    Can u give us a clue how u would use psycos to real practical situations. Many experts have tried but 2 arty farty for me! perhaps try some basics techs as i would really like to put theory onto site

    Cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panikmkanic View Post
    Hi Glenn n Welcum

    Can u give us a clue how u would use psycos to real practical situations. Many experts have tried but 2 arty farty for me! perhaps try some basics techs as i would really like to put theory onto site

    Cheers mate
    I'm not sure where the arty farty bit fits in, but if you're refering to "psychrometric charts" for "real practical solutions", we normally only use them to confirm our calculations for industrial process designs where there is air mixes in the system (typically pharmacuetical & confectionery processes). We also use charts to demonstrate the actual process in diagramatic form. Psychrometric charting software (PsychPro) is available from Linric (USA).

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Quote Originally Posted by US Iceman View Post
    Welcome Glenn.

    "dark world of Psychrometrics" is right!

    This is one topic that always leaves me asking more questions. I suppose it might help if I used it more often though.

    Do you have any good recommendations for reading material? Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
    I got some info on this book. I am bout to order I believe came from a very knowledgeable person on another forum I check out.

    "I would recommend Norm Christopherson's book "Airside System Analysis"

    If interested...of course. I would like to hear Psychro's idea on this book or if he knows of it.
    Hya

    I have not read any of the Lama books so I'd be interested to know whether they are any good. It would appear (info from member "Abbey Normal") that Humidity Control Design Guide for Commercial And Institutional Buildings by L. Harriman; Hardcover; $136.00 from Amazon could be a good place to start as he has many years experience in desiccant technology and associated applications. Unfortunatley, as with most American engineering publications, the authors tend to use imperial units not metric, so us poor Brits tend to suffer from the lack of well written HVAC books.

    Regards

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Thanks for the info on the book. I'll have to investigate that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychro
    Unfortunatley, as with most American engineering publications, the authors tend to use imperial units not metric, so us poor Brits tend to suffer from the lack of well written HVAC books.
    Oh come one.

    Any book written in a different unit system does not make it bad. I have some books from the UK in SI that are very good. Although, I do have to read them carefully as I do not have the same "feeling" for SI as I do for IP.

    There is one common thread to this however. There are a sortage of well written boks with good understandable and practical application info. In any unit system!
    If all else fails, ask for help.


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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Hi! I am sanjay. I am also having my own company doing turn key cold store projects in India. We always face humidity problems in cold stores & have tried variety of things. But finally never tried Munters till date. Very Very Expensive. We tried to get more details on their projects if deon in South / Ease Asia region. They never came back on that. Now we have a chance to know more on that!!!!

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    Re: New member from the dark world of Psychrometrics!

    Quote Originally Posted by smpsmp45 View Post
    Hi! I am sanjay. I am also having my own company doing turn key cold store projects in India. We always face humidity problems in cold stores & have tried variety of things. But finally never tried Munters till date. Very Very Expensive. We tried to get more details on their projects if deon in South / Ease Asia region. They never came back on that. Now we have a chance to know more on that!!!!
    Hi Sanjay

    You're right - Munters do tend to be expensive. There are however a few other companies manufacturing desiccant dehumidifiers using silica gel rotors (long lifetime), so it's worth looking around on the web for the best deal.

    Regards
    Psychro

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