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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    would 8 litres per second per person be near ?
    8 l/s/p is a bit high.

    If there is no smoking, you can go down to 2.5 l/s/p for a typical office. Fresh air is a big load so you should keep it to a minimum.

    You are right to base the quantity on the number of people. I have seen estimates based on a fraction of the supply air but this is when you don't have any better figures.

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Thanks for your replies ! anyone else with ideas ?

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    CIBSE guide recommends 8 l/s/person as a minimum fresh air requirement (20 l/s/person for airconditioned spaces) or 6 air changes per hour for an office environment.

    So, for 10 persons you would require 80 l/s or 0.08m3/s or for 6ACH you would require 0.67m3/s.

    The additional cooling load, UK conditions would be 1.51kw or 1.26kw respectively

    0.08m3/s would require a duct @ 150mm dia to give a reasonable velocity and pressure drop.
    Last edited by frank; 16-04-2007 at 07:52 PM.

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Many thanks Frank, Just the info i can use !

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Quote Originally Posted by frank View Post
    CIBSE guide recommends 8 l/s/person as a minimum fresh air requirement (20 l/s/person for airconditioned spaces) or 6 air changes per hour for an office environment.
    Good advice, always check your local requirements.

    In SA with +35degC ambient and poorly sealed buildings, we try to keep the fresh air to a minimum.

    ASHRAE does not actually give a fresh air recommendation but rather a guideline.

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Quote Originally Posted by nh3simman View Post
    ASHRAE does not actually give a fresh air recommendation but rather a guideline.
    The English CIBSE Guide is also a "Guide" but it is adopted by most design engineers to be incorporated into new build projects, as it sets a baseline for the performance of the services.

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Quote Originally Posted by nh3simman View Post
    Good advice, always check your local requirements.

    In SA with +35degC ambient and poorly sealed buildings, we try to keep the fresh air to a minimum.

    ASHRAE does not actually give a fresh air recommendation but rather a guideline.
    Pheww thank god for that ay !!!

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Quote Originally Posted by nh3simman View Post
    8 l/s/p is a bit high.

    If there is no smoking, you can go down to 2.5 l/s/p for a typical office. Fresh air is a big load so you should keep it to a minimum.

    You are right to base the quantity on the number of people. I have seen estimates based on a fraction of the supply air but this is when you don't have any better figures.
    2.5 l/s is bare bones minimum in many places. Think the first number ever used was 4 CFM per in the Houses of Parliament. Heard an urban legend they used to give coal miners 5 cfm per to keep productivity up.

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    Re: Fresh air requirement question

    Quote Originally Posted by Abby Normal View Post
    2.5 l/s is bare bones minimum in many places. Think the first number ever used was 4 CFM per in the Houses of Parliament. Heard an urban legend they used to give coal miners 5 cfm per to keep productivity up.
    I wouldn't say 2.5l/s/p is a bare bones minumum.
    We add outside air for 2 reasons
    1. Supply of O2
    2. removal of CO2
    People need 0.2l/s of O2. This is a fresh air rate of 1 l/s/p.

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