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    ***** and memory lapse



    I've been pondering this from time to time and it recently came to mind again.

    Back in the golden age of fishery around here, shipowners were more concerned about turn-around time (time form starting unloading cargo till leaving for the fishing fields), and of course, the company that could provide the fastest service was the preferred company

    ***** cost about the same as a pack of chewing gum and if they had to charge one bottle or ten didnt matter, as long as they got back to fishing as soon as possible.

    so of course we gave that little extra when performing service, ***** wasnt dangerous apart from being asphyxiating and we all knew the signs, blushing and "warm cheeks" and you were ok, when you started loosing sensation, or feel tingling in the upper lip it was time to leave, meaning go up and have a smoke or two before heading back down.



    Now... this is how we operated back when I was a newbie, and I got my share of *****...


    Now, that was the prelude


    Now, things have changed alot since then, and now the smallest amount of ***** gives me memory lapses/teflon brain... just changing a compressor on a small provision plant, the 0.2 bar left in the compressor and in the oil is enough that when I go to work the next morning I have a hard time recalling details of things I noticed when opening the compressor that I needed to put in my report.


    And after this http://www.refrigeration-engineer.co...ead.php?t=4041 incident, I get a gagging sensation in ***** or NH3 concentrations where I before could have worked without the slightest discomfort. to explain, if I inhale very slowly I'm ok, but if I try to breath normal my throat closes up and I feel like throwing up instead...


    Guess refrigeration engineers really are very analytic


    -Cheers-

    Tycho

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    Thats like me and alcohol. After a bit of a sesion whilst working away, it took me 18 months to be able to even sip anything alcoholic without feeling as ill as i had the next day ( i still say it was food poisoning )

    Cheers Jon

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Tycho View Post
    I've been pondering this from time to time and it recently came to mind again.



    Now, things have changed alot since then, and now the smallest amount of ***** gives me memory lapses/teflon brain... just changing a compressor on a small provision plant, the 0.2 bar left in the compressor and in the oil is enough that when I go to work the next morning I have a hard time recalling details of things I noticed when opening the compressor that I needed to put in my report.

    Guess refrigeration engineers really are very analytic

    Yes i agree. I have a terrible memory and I somtimes wonder if it is due to sniffing ***** as a lad

    yes i agree. I have a terrible memory and I somtimes wonder if it is due to sniffing ***** as a lad

    Now then where was I

    Cheers taz.

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    I have to say that Cuervo Gold tequila, Barcardi 151 rum, Wild Turkey Bourbon, and Smirnoff Vodka that has no known freezing temperature have caused me much more memory loss than any wiffs of *****.

    On the other hand, problems in ***** systems have on occasion, caused me to consume the former listed items with consequent memory loss.

    Are we discussing cause or effects here? One needs to isolate the variables here to be sure.

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    mumble mumble,mumble mumble, my brain hurts, glad i,am not on my own. most old fridge guys i know do have heart trouble asswell though.

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    I'm pretty sure it's the *****, cause I do a hard reboot of my system every few weekend with a bottle of bombay sapphire or two


    Just thought I'd ask if anyone else had noticed this, cause I've been thinking about it every now and then when it gets bad... and then a few days before I posted this I was talking to a engineer from a competing company, and he mentioned that he had trouble with his memory for a few weeks time after working in places where there were ***** in the air...
    -Cheers-

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    It's been a long time since I have worked on any of this small stuff but there are some additional complications with some of the refrigerants that caused irregular heart beats and other strange effects.

    Funny, I can't remember what the other effects are either.

    The couple of events where I've been exposed to this stuff leads me to conclude these refrigerants are not as safe as someone might lead you to believe.

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    You'll be surprised that even ordinary people get significant exposure to refrigerant from aerosol products. In tiny amounts, most common HFCs (including R134a) have no known effect on health. (Exceptions include inhaling too high a concentration (generally only a problem with large systems) and getting hit by liquid. I took a hit of R134a to the nipple while I was working on a CPU cooler once - that stung for a second.) Many aerosol products contain R134a and/or R152a.
    "If Hannah was an air handler, I would be a condensing unit so I could open her TXV and pump my refrigerant through her coils." - a HVAC friend of mine

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    Another side to refrigerants that i was not aware of until an operation in hospital was when the aneathatists( spelling not sure) came to see me and asked the usual questions about life styles.

    When i informed him i had worked with refrigerants for 20 years he said that it would effect the amount or mixture of anasthetic given during the operation.

    So make sure you inform people when going under the knife, i didn't ask any further questions of him, i was in no fit state to care.

    Lrac

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    I was going to post something but I forgot!

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    Quote Originally Posted by johnl45 View Post
    I was going to post something but I forgot!
    Thanks for your great contribution to the forum.
    If you forget anything else please feel free to post it here....LOL

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    DESTROY ALL EVIDENCE THAT YOU TRIED!
    and go get a cuppa

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    Re: ***** and memory lapse

    the funny thing about laughing gas,N20(?),other than most dentists are addicted to it,is that it floats your brain inside your skull cavity,giving you that mild euphoric sensation,so just imagine what *****'s doin to your system.
    i've also had a x-ray on my spine for medical purpose's and my specialist looked at me in horror and said that i looked like i had pnumonia.i felt perfectly fine and told him it was another day at the office!

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