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    Angry propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)



    Good day all,

    I am working in a gas plant. our issue is with propane screw compressor package, we are suffering a lot from the damaging of the seal due to oil continamated with vapor water or some thing else. The colure of the oil changed to the milky oil and also the consumption of oil is too high>is any one could help us.

    many thanks



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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Mustafa,
    Maybe you need to check oil with oil analysis & find out what contamination is.
    When you find out what it is check where contamination could come from, then go from there.

    Excessive oil consumption could be damaged coalescers in oil separator, or loose. Replace/tighten.
    Also liquid propane entering compressor could also wash oil out.

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear Ranger,
    I have got a failure report with pics, where could I passed to you if you donot mind?

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Mustafa,
    View profile, about me, then download v card

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear Richard,

    I have sent you an e mail, have you received??

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Quote Originally Posted by mustafa2014 View Post
    Dear Richard,

    I have sent you an e mail, have you received??
    Yes have sent reply

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    dear Richard,

    sorry for bothering you.

    I have not receive your mail. please send it agine to (Mustafa.alhur@gmail.com)

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Quote Originally Posted by mustafa2014 View Post
    dear Richard,

    sorry for bothering you.

    I have not receive your mail. please send it agine to (Mustafa.alhur@gmail.com)
    Mustara, I sent again so let me know if you receive it.

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Hi, mustafa2014

    welcome to RE forums...

    Quote Originally Posted by mustafa2014 View Post
    Good day all,

    I am working in a gas plant. our issue is with propane screw compressor package, we are suffering a lot from the damaging of the seal due to oil continamated with vapor water or some thing else. The colure of the oil changed to the milky oil and also the consumption of oil is too high>is any one could help us.

    many thanks
    can you give us some more info ...

    Your package is ... closed circuit to cool down some other process gas or propane liquefying plant,

    is it one stage plant with economizer or two stages

    suction pressure ...condensing pressure ...

    is it used for boil off gas, cooling also some butane ...

    type of oil cooler ... temperature of oil entering compressor ... discharge oil temperature

    how old is your plant ... what maintenance you did on plant ...

    Please, write down all what you think can help us to troubleshoot your plant ...it is not an easy job to do remotely ...we need as much as possible data regarding your plant ...


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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear RANGER1,

    I have received you mail thank you very much. I am preparing full information package for you right know.

    Dear Josip,
    Find below our reply:-

    our package is a propane refrigeration package (three identical trains). Each package is designed to deliver 3592 KW of refrigeration at -36C.The propane package is installed in the GAS HC DEWPOINT CONTROL UNITE.

    2-one stage plant with economizer (I HAVE dwg for all the train if you need).

    3- type of oil cooler>>tube and shell cooler by water

    4-delta p of oil at starting is 5 bar after warm reaches 3 bar

    5- our plant life just 9 years.

    the problem is commen for all trains

    I will send you the rest of information after 2 houres


    many thanks

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Mustafa, compressor. Model number would also be helpful WRV or WRVH ...........

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    dears,

    please Ringer1 & I have sent to only some oil failure reports, we still have the same failure up to know.Josip I would like to send you some PICS & data sheet in order to compare with the actual data, but I could not up loaded here, please advice how can I up loaded ,so you can have complete picture.there is quit different between design data and actual data

    These are the information

    Model:- WCVTN/510

    temp. of oil= about 60c.

    sorry about delta P of oil it is=4.3

    gas section temp.=-13

    gas disch. temp=81

    seal type=John crane 279/part Nr.N0579108040

    elastomers are used in shaft seal & compressor= Viton / PTFE

    coupling is installed on compressor/drive motor=METASTREAM TLKS-2000.

    moreover, HAVE ASKED TO DO A COMPLETE TEST FOR OIL AND GAS.

    the oil has been changed many times

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear Ringer1,

    I have sent to you some pics , but I think you mail box is full

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Mechanical seal, type 270, 6.5", repair & parts for tag no. Tor-k13972rba

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Mustafa, please try again.

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear I have sent to you please check your mail.

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear Ringer
    is there any up data to my case, please advice?

    I tried to send pics once more but your server rejected the mail with pics.
    have you got any other mail??


    BR

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    [QUOTE=mustafa2014;293278]Dear Ringer
    is there any up data to my case, please advice?

    I tried to send pics once more but your server rejected the mail with pics.
    have you got any other mail??

    Mustafa please check your email for different address just sent.

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    Re: propane screw compressore failur (HOWDEN)

    Dear Ringer1,


    I have just send to you pics. please confirm
    thanks alot

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