Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    211
    Rep Power
    19

    Optimum condenser fan speed



    If a condenser is speeded up, airflow will increase and the condenser temperature will decrease, making the system more efficient (ignoring the power used by the condenser fan). But at some point, the energy used by the fan motor will undo the savings from lowered condenser temperature.
    Is there a "fast and simple" way to calculate the optimum fan speed or does it vary too much depending on the design? (This is all just for curiousity, BTW.)



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    5,302
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: Optimum condenser fan speed

    Quote Originally Posted by star882
    But at some point, the energy used by the fan motor will undo the savings from lowered condenser temperature.
    Exactly right.

    I have seen this happen on large ammonia systems also. In the attempt to reduce the discharge pressure to some lower pressure you can expend considerable fan energy to save energy on the compressor motors.

    You need to develop some sort of a model that accounts for fan energy and compressor motor energy compared to ambient conditions and condenser capacity to see the results.

    Depending on the size of the system and the costs you are able to spend, you can use a VFD to incrementally decrease the fan speed. This will provide energy savings on the fan power, close discharge pressure control, and allow you to minimize the problem you have stated.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: Optimum condenser fan speed

    You can simulate this in Microsoft Excel with the function "iteration"
    I'm plotting it out in a graph, is much easier for me.
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Weihai,China
    Posts
    800
    Rep Power
    20

    Re: Optimum condenser fan speed

    You can simulate this in Microsoft Excel with the function "iteration"
    I've not found "iteration" in my Excel. Maybe it need to install add-ins ?

    There is one thing I want to add, increasing air volume will enhance the condenser heat rejection,but it's without obvious effect while reaching one point. Only lifting air side heat transfer coefficient can't increase total K value. So the optimum value should think both the power consuming and K value improvement.

    rgds
    LC
    I hear...I forget;I see...I remember;I do...I understand

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    California
    Posts
    394
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: Optimum condenser fan speed

    Quote Originally Posted by lc_shi
    I've not found "iteration" in my Excel. Maybe it need to install add-ins ?

    There is one thing I want to add, increasing air volume will enhance the condenser heat rejection,but it's without obvious effect while reaching one point. Only lifting air side heat transfer coefficient can't increase total K value. So the optimum value should think both the power consuming and K value improvement.

    rgds
    LC
    Of course You are correct in that there is a point on deminishing returns where increasing the air flow will not increase the heat transfer to any apprechible amount with out increasing the delta T

Similar Threads

  1. Condensor split temperature
    By Peter_1 in forum Fundamentals
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 31-07-2011, 05:49 PM
  2. method to design air cooled condenser
    By abbasi in forum New Technologies
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-02-2008, 08:34 AM
  3. Cooling condenser of split with condensate from evaporator
    By smileypete in forum Air Conditioning
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 10-07-2005, 08:21 AM
  4. Condenser Fan
    By Vicky in forum Supermarket Refrigeration
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 20-04-2005, 08:38 AM
  5. Kuba fan speed question
    By Peter_1 in forum Electrical
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-12-2004, 07:17 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •