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    Angry Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking



    Dear Friends

    I've been working on a TES water-water heat pump manufactured by TES model 25-1 R407 2kg.

    The current problem is that the evaporator is tube in tube and has split, causing water to leak everywhere. It's completely inaccessible without disconnecting everything and lifting the unit.

    I think it's split because of problems with the source water pump, no flow and therefore low pressure, causing the water to freeze.

    I think there's every chance the fridge pipes inside it will have been damaged as well, and the whole evaporator will have to be replaced.

    I had it working for a few days but it's gone off again, the source water is running OK so I suspect gas leak now.

    TES have gone bust.

    Does anyone know where I can buy a suitable replacement or have any advice?

    Thanks



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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Hi, I have used Wilson Titanium for custom water chiller barrels. He makes a very efficient, industrial duty pvc shell/titanium tube evaporator. And can build whatever size you need. I know he has shipped all over the world, but is located in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. His web site is http://www.titaniumproducts.ns.ca/
    He also makes auto-revsersible water-to-water heat pumps.

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    the guys that work for tes is now called aqua water chillers in exeter give him a ring they said they can get parts ok ta charlie

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Very helpful, thanks.

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Do you have any contact details for Aqua Water Chillers in Exeter Charlie, I cant find anything on line!

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    its in the office will get

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    if you know the capacity, you can check on any coaxial evaporator manufacturer.
    any flow control?
    is it Chinese?

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    No, there's no flow control, the manufacturer is British, I not sure about the heat exchanger, I think they just constructed it with parts from all over the place, could be Chinese I guess. I'm hoping that coaxial evaporators come in standard sizes.

    Thanks

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    The only flow control is the source water pump which is fixed speed, its about 2 or 3 bar.

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    It needs a minimum of 30L / min which it gets no problem

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Hi Contactor
    Just an old school thought is you could build a tube in tube heat exchanger simply, if you had a rough idea of what the dimensions are. Copper is simple with a little heat and not too sharp on the radius. Stainless you will need to pack with dried sand and heat to cheery red. I have made both with minimal time and tools.

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    spoke to aqua today they said give there head office a call as they have some contacts and listing of tes kit on 01329840503 there rep was with tes they helped me the other day

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Thanks Charlie

    Tesla - Will give it a go if all else fails

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Good Luck, I have a customer with some TES kit and they apparently lost a load of info a few years ago when they moved. But the administrators did put him in touch with a guy that used to work for them who knows the kit I am sure I can get his number if you need it.
    Hopefully you will be able to find what you need.
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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Why not place a new PHE beside/outside the unit and leave the defective one in place? Small and cheap.
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    I'm not sure what a PHE is Peter, is it a Plate Heat Exchanger? Its a tube in tube heat exchanger that's leaking..........?

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    Re: Evaporator hell: Tube in tube leaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Contactor View Post
    I'm not sure what a PHE is Peter, is it a Plate Heat Exchanger? Its a tube in tube heat exchanger that's leaking..........?
    Correct, PHE is just that....a Plate Heat Exchanger. It doesn't matter that the original is tube in tube, both do the same thing, just in a different way. Once you know the specifications of the original, easy to match a PHE tot replace the Tube in Tube.

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