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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting



    Yes it's working fine, the heat is required to drop the ice as its such a big slab of it.



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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Quote Originally Posted by 1mikeefc1 View Post
    Yes it's working fine, the heat is required to drop the ice as its such a big slab of it.
    Allright.

    I never took notice of the pause between the ice harvest mode and the ice making mode.

    It stalls(stops working for a while and then the compressor works).

    I think this is because the temperature on the evaporator rises up to 40C and then it have to come down to ambient temperature in order for the compressor to even start kicking in.

    Not sure how it is made exactly there.

    So the ice maker was sold because it was slowing production. it is 2x as slow as advertized, making half the amount of ice cubes in 24 hrs.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    http://www.thetickletrunk.com/17-air...eel-containers

    Google produced me these containers to store ice inside.

    Overrated?
    Or looks good?

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    how does one keep these ice blocks from sticking in the freezer?

    They are wet ice blocks.

    Unless you freeze the whole slab!

    i guess these commercial ice machines are made to have the ice to be there to be served.

    have them run for half a day and have ice in the machine for your clients.

    I am looking at ice picks to buy at the moment:

    http://www.****tailkingdom.com/produ...x_0000_sma.htm

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    1-point-ice-pick.jpg


    http://theprayinglife.files.wordpres...t-ice-pick.jpg

    I bought an ice pick in the supermarket for a few dollars like this one.

    I ussually take out the ice bags. Which are in the freezer like one big lump of ice and break them up and put the loose ice back in the bag. This make it easier to make the ice loose when you go take more ice the next time.

    It works for now.
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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    k40 thermostat007.jpg
    I found this whilst tidying my van earlier. Better late than never.

    Andy

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy AC View Post
    k40 thermostat007.jpg
    I found this whilst tidying my van earlier. Better late than never.

    Andy
    Hehehe

    yeah Andy, thanks for that explanation.

    The calibration screw i figured it out, while testing the machine a couple of weeks ago. Trial and error.

    But my ice making cycles are still taking too way long, about 55 minutes long each. Even the 2nd or 3rd cycles.

    I can live with that though, seeing I do not operate it for a restaurant/hotel that needs constant ice cubes production in a short time.

    I just have the machine make ice and come back in a few hours and bag the ice and put it in the freezer for later use.

    It is only a few of us using the ice cubes. Sometimes I make icy drinks it takes a lot of ice(frapuccino's, pinja colada etc).

    The tray ice cubes in your fridge just have a scent and aftertaste to them.

    Ice machine ice cubes are better and melts less quicker.

    I am looking into making ****tails, now the ice machines is back working.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    now its working you could get 1 of theses and be a proper party conisseur!
    http://www.smythstoys.com/kitchens-h...122280itm.aspx

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Now that's a bit of kit to install :-)

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Quote Originally Posted by install monkey View Post
    now its working you could get 1 of theses and be a proper party conisseur!
    http://www.smythstoys.com/kitchens-h...122280itm.aspx

    Nah now it is turn to check out an Air Conditioning!

    This project:

    http://www.refrigeration-engineer.co...ht=#post263587

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    On topic:

    I met a old and rusty scottsman at a Restaurant near a beach lately where I go often for my job. I haven't checked out the ice quality of that one. But it is a big machine.

    Also I when you know more about ice machine you will think if the water is filtered. And if it is what about the cleanliness inside this machine. I need to ask them there to have a sample.

    Also I should order that TDS meter:

    Water quality:

    http://www.buydirectwaterfilters.com.../t_d_s__meter/

    A TDS Meter indicates the Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) of a solution, i.e. the concentration of dissolved solids in it. Since dissolved ionized solids such as salts and minerals increase the conductivity of a solution, a TDS meter measures the conductivity of the solution and estimates the TDS from that.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDS_meter

    To be more critical on my water quality and others.

    Also when I drove by this week by a supermarket. I saw the ice truck unloading the old bags of ice cubes out of the freezer where they keep these ice bags. And replenish it with fresh new bags of ice cubes. In the Caribbean(read more St Maarten) here it is common to go to the supermarket and buy your bag of ice.

    There must be a lot of waste. When it comes to these ice cubes bags. Sold at I guess 2-3 dollars a bag to the consumer.

    A few years ago I already bought me a blender which makes icey drinks. Think of frappuccino or pinja colada etc.

    I need to get me the bar stuff, the glasses and the mixers and stuff you make C_ocktails with.
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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    I need to do cosmetic stuff, like the screws on the sidepanels(ventilation panels of the k20 ice maker) does anyone know where I can get them cheap?

    What size are they anyway?

    They can be bought at any hardware store?

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    oh lord i checked this week an ice maker manicotow big one looks so badly maintained and the ice in it is no longer clear.

    they are not cubes but like ice with a dent inside but square shaped.

    to think they would make a drink with these ice cubes!

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    You would be surprised at what environmental health ignore.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Quote Originally Posted by 1mikeefc1 View Post
    You would be surprised at what environmental health ignore.
    You mean the inspectors that come check the hygiene of an establishment?

    Well that looks oke but for the poor machine to be working unventilated and in a closed up area is horrible. Specially at night when the place closes. To top it off a fridge is next to the ice machine in the same area.

    They never bothered with some ventilation. The ambient temperature must be very high especially in these tropical temperatures.

    I cant imagine how hard it will have to work and also how hot it will be when a person goes in that area.

    The compressor pushes the hot air out as the ice making process starts.

    The fact that the ice is no longer clear must be because the machine has not been services for a while.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Ice is supposed to be considered as a food stuff so these "inspectors" should be pulling all the venues/managers on the state of the ice. No ventilation and overheating in a room with an ice machine is leathal as stagnant water in a warm environment will speed up bacteria growth.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Quote Originally Posted by 1mikeefc1 View Post
    Ice is supposed to be considered as a food stuff so these "inspectors" should be pulling all the venues/managers on the state of the ice. No ventilation and overheating in a room with an ice machine is leathal as stagnant water in a warm environment will speed up bacteria growth.
    Well. yeah it is considered as food.

    The Machine looked like something like this:

    http://www.globeequipment.com/Commer...es/C0830-B948s

    But way older model.

    The ice chest is full all the time but when the place opens there is ventilation but when it closes down at 5 and for the night it must be closed up in the area. And there will be no other vents open or windows and having 2 appliances with compressors on inside this building would make it quite hot.

    I do not even want to think about the insides of this ice machine.

    Should be full of scales and limestones.

    Outside already it looks rusty. And as I said the ice looks not so clear to me.
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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Looks like a lot of ones we work on, in theory it should dump all water after every cycle and refill with clean water, works well unless of course it's already stuffed with lime scale and the water filter isn't changed frequently.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    heheh disaster zone!

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    This is by far the best sign I've seen on an ice machine to date
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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    As in killing you with a dash of bacteria?

    It is like eating food off a dirty plate that was never washed. It might be dangerous.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    How is the ice maker scene out there?

    By the same place I am working now. Before the 4th of july the ice maker broke down. A big one scottsman i think..

    They resorted to buying bags of ice for the party.

    Then after they fixed it.

    Not sure what was broken did not ask.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    http://www.amazon.com/OTH_LEWISBAGxx...d_bxgy_k_img_y

    Update on the icemaker:

    I bought a lewis bag and a mallet(wooden hammer).

    I needed these tools to sometimes beat the block of ice in the bag loose to be able to have some in my glass.

    ==

    on the icemaker side. It starts to make thinner pieces of ice and I think I need to set the dial in the back to a bit thicker ice. I have not touched it though since I had thick ice.

    It might be something else too that makes the slab of ice thinner then normal.

    I need to have it a clean again.

    ====

    The filter of everpure I have also is in working condition but close to the 10-15 PSI which on the label said needs replacing if it plunges below 10 psi.

    I have this filter for quite a while now. But have not used it intensively.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    as long as the water overflows down the drain when on its harvest cycle then the water pressure drop is irrelevent, when its running ensure the water isnt dripping out the drain plug or spitting into the bin- ensure nozzle head isnt slimed up

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    Quote Originally Posted by install monkey View Post
    as long as the water overflows down the drain when on its harvest cycle then the water pressure drop is irrelevent, when its running ensure the water isnt dripping out the drain plug or spitting into the bin- ensure nozzle head isnt slimed up
    I poked the drain hole with a plastic straw also tried q-tips.

    And it seemed to have cleaned up the stuff between the rubber part and the pvc pipe attached.

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    Did I mention I bought a wooden mallet to beat the ice back to pieces.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Once you store away the ice blocks in the freezer, the bag of ice becomes one big block of ice.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    I think the reason they ditches this machines is that the machines harvest cycle for ice is too long.

    I have not checked the cycle duration as yet.

    But it is more then the 17 min claimed harvest cycle. Probaby around 50 min each cycle.

    So I probably need more gas in the compressor?

    Let me know.


    Quote Originally Posted by xbox40489 View Post
    I poked the drain hole with a plastic straw also tried q-tips.



    And it seemed to have cleaned up the stuff between the rubber part and the pvc pipe attached.

    ==

    Did I mention I bought a wooden mallet to beat the ice back to pieces.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Once you store away the ice blocks in the freezer, the bag of ice becomes one big block of ice.

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    Re: k20 Ignis Blizzard icemaker issue with not starting

    How do I refill the gas?

    Quote Originally Posted by xbox40489 View Post
    I think the reason they ditches this machines is that the machines harvest cycle for ice is too long.

    I have not checked the cycle duration as yet.

    But it is more then the 17 min claimed harvest cycle. Probaby around 50 min each cycle.

    So I probably need more gas in the compressor?

    Let me know.


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