Can you help us please?

[AussieIce]

Hello
New to this site recently. Our air conditioning had a small leak, so we vented the remainder to space and pulled system pressure to space too, recharged to 7k superheat and 10k subcooling and it now works fine accept when we have sun. We believe its either an issue with unprotected radiant heat or an overload of neutrinos. Can anyone advise? High side is 21bar temperature 90k = superheat 20k. Low side is 12bar temperature 6k = superheat 7k. Liquid line is 24k = subcooling 10k. Pressures and temperatures remain quite stable even when on sun side but it just fails to cool, what could be the problem, the only problem we see is an intermittent drop in suction pressure and rise in temperature which subsides as soon as sun is down. Our oxygen regenerator seems to be working below design also when suction pressure drops. Thankyou

[monkey spanners]

Hi Aussie!

I think the trouble here is since last week when neutrinos became able to exceed the speed of light that, anything you try and cool will in fact warm up before you've even started, try fitting a relay in the feed to the reversing valve so that it defaults to heating, that way it will cool before its even started and you'll save some energy you can then use to boost the perfromance of the oxygen generator.

I have had some success in the past with revesing the polarity but is not an ellegant soltion and best left as a kill or cure measure imho.

MS

[AussieIce]

Hello
could anyone help, who does actually understand refrigeration and physics a bit more than the monkey?
It is running R410a and I have made a typo error discharge temperature is 54k. Can an experienced refrigeration engineer confirm these pressures look good and help put the monkey back in her cage. Thankyou

[Grizzly]

Aussie.
You insult a very esteemed member.
Talk in Kelvin when not necessary then expect the rest of us who are here to help, to take pity on you.
Your first post was full as far as I could understand it, of bad practice and poor information.
It's a wonder Monkey even bothered to answer!
As we say around my part of the world.

"On Your Bike!"

You may know physics but you don't appear to know how to ask!

Grizzly

[AussieIce]

Hey come on, first the monkey & now the grizzly bear with a sore head, what is this a Zoo? Can anyone help me please that is not a caged animal ? Thankyou

[simon@parker]

Aussie.
You insult a very esteemed member.
Talk in Kelvin when not necessary then expect the rest of us who are here to help, to take pity on you.
Your first post was full as far as I could understand it, of bad practice and poor information.
It's a wonder Monkey even bothered to answer!
As we say around my part of the world.

"On Your Bike!"

You may know physics but you don't appear to know how to ask!

Grizzly

well said that man tell him to sling his hook

[AussieIce]

Now Its a monkey shivering, is that from the weather or the chill pills? Is there any zoo keepers on here tonight, to round up the animals, can anyone help me please?

[simon@parker]

if yr in the vaccume of space just pop over to the hatch open door and get me an outside temp reading with a calibrated hand held thermometer will only take u a mo will be happy to help then

[monkey spanners]

On second thoughts i'd be investigating oil waxing issues if you temperatures are correct and given you location in outer space, though i'd expect the effect of the sun would be helping and not hindering operation, curious!

If all else fails, open a window

[AussieIce]

Thankyou
Currently outside temperature is fluctuating between -185k and -247k it appears to be an abnormality of a solar storm we are currently experiencing, btw earths sheild seems to be flexing quite a bit from up here, are you having strange pressure readings on land?

[AussieIce]

Hello Simon
are you ok working at these temperatures, you are the only one here who understands, I have pulled a excellent vaccuum prior to charging and it only took 12 seconds, remarkable

[AussieIce]

Hello again monkey
we have illiminated oil from our systems and have replaced traditional compressors, with a modified jet compressor that work very well, maybe I under estimated animals, you do appear to understand flux points for waxing. Have you experienced jet compressors with what we call widget moderation control?

[monkey spanners]

Hello again monkey
we have illiminated oil from our systems and have replaced traditional compressors, with a modified jet compressor that work very well, maybe I under estimated animals, you do appear to understand flux points for waxing. Have you experienced jet compressors with what we call widget moderation control?

AHA!

Some of those jet compressors use magnetic bearings, be sure your bearing magnetometer ecu is correcting for the influence of the earths magnetic poles, you may need to interface a Helmholtz calibration system to eliminate diurnal variations in the earths fields.

I've found Billingsley Aerospace & Defence a good source of these, though not cheap.

[al]

OP

Watching this may help? Maybe light something up, a good Hamlet maybe, sit back and enjoy.

al

[stufus]

Hey AussieIce

You didn't happen to see an old satellite hurtling past your window while you were playing with your widget did you ?
If so any idea where it was heading as a few of us are running a book on where it's going land .
As for your problem have you tried CTRL ALT DELETE after all it's all computer controlled .

Cheers
Stu

[mad fridgie]

It certainly sounds like you got to many strings in the system. your solar array aint working, other wise you would know that your discharge temp would be close to 370K, so unfortunately you only have a hydralic pump system with a bit vapor drawn through your jet compressor. Do you not think that the excess load comes from you rooting the on board sheep, Do you think it just coincidental about the sun, you have to see what you are doing "which end to stick it in)

[r.bartlett]

Are you qualified to work on refrigeration systems?
(come on guy's what would you expect me to say :-)

[frank]

MOB for sure......lol

[AussieIce]

AHA!

Some of those jet compressors use magnetic bearings, be sure your bearing magnetometer ecu is correcting for the influence of the earths magnetic poles, you may need to interface a Helmholtz calibration system to eliminate diurnal variations in the earths fields.

I've found Billingsley Aerospace & Defence a good source of these, though not cheap.

Hi Monkey
our magneto realignment led is constantly flashing when we are in the upper orbit and the compressor gets rather noisy plus we have found it is accerating to twice its design spec, when suction is low, how can we correct the pull of the earth, we have also had our neutrino metre go off the scale, so this could also still be an issue, your thoughts? thankyou

OP

Watching this may help? Maybe light something up, a good Hamlet maybe, sit back and enjoy.

al

al
could kill for a smoke

Hey AussieIce

You didn't happen to see an old satellite hurtling past your window while you were playing with your widget did you ?
If so any idea where it was heading as a few of us are running a book on where it's going land .
As for your problem have you tried CTRL ALT DELETE after all it's all computer controlled .

Cheers
Stu

I did lots of parts spreading out everywhere, but looked like most of the Gold is falling over Cork and Nottingham

It certainly sounds like you got to many strings in the system. your solar array aint working, other wise you would know that your discharge temp would be close to 370K, so unfortunately you only have a hydralic pump system with a bit vapor drawn through your jet compressor. Do you not think that the excess load comes from you rooting the on board sheep, Do you think it just coincidental about the sun, you have to see what you are doing "which end to stick it in)

The mad proffessor designer of the widget arrives, we need more nutty proffessors at NASA, could you spare us some time oh wise one?

Are you qualified to work on refrigeration systems?
(come on guy's what would you expect me to say :-)

Can you send me a manual if I show you my Certs?

MOB for sure......lol

No I am not from South Africa
I can let on I am a big fan of the Rams

[al]

Sorry astro man, was missing the link:

http://bit.ly/cXlekv

ah, happiness is...

al

[AussieIce]

Babylon Zoo is a favourite of mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_9MI2ymN6s

[install monkey]

did u install it??? is it piped correctly!!is there an expansion line on it and are the compression ratio's correct for ur jet compressor??roger ram jet??haha

[monkey spanners]

Hi Aussie,

I think you'll find this link very helpful, it covers many of the issues you have reported,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7...eature=related

Monkey

[mikeref]

C'mon fellas!!! This guy doesn't know suction from discharge pressures..

[MikeHolm]

MOB for sure......lol

Hi Frank,
Watcha drinking....certainly not the verrialian goom juice the OP needs to keep the vogon constructor fleets from knocking your house down?

[Goober]

Black Bear hunting season again?

[MikeHolm]

Black Bear hunting season again?

Referring to the prof? Haven't heard from his majesty for quite a while

[install monkey]

glad i didnt send u a manual-weve not had an update-1 post wonder!!! haha

[simon@parker]

shot of gas init might help

[install monkey]

bet he left his gauges in his van-and its parked 8ooo miles away!!!!haha

[simon@parker]

well i hope he didnt step outside for a smoke its cold in space lol supprised chillerman not commented or at least fixed it for him

[install monkey]

the question wasnt complex enough and it wasnt painted green! and it didnt have a millenium controller!!haha

[MikeHolm]

blowed up like a big balloon......go boom

[AussieIce]

did u install it??? is it piped correctly!!is there an expansion line on it and are the compression ratio's correct for ur jet compressor??roger ram jet??haha

Install it !
We only install spy equipment and can view straight through your living room window
Leave it alone it will fall off
Who is Roger, I am Nilocm

[install monkey]

is that why we dont have peeping toms any more- now they do it via a mickey mouse satellite with a webcam- nilocm is that one of the tweenies - u need to message tinky winky coz ur f*****g lala haha

Install it !
We only install spy equipment and can view straight through your living room window
Leave it alone it will fall off
Who is Roger, I am Nilocm

[simon@parker]

millenium controller ? green ? eh ? pretty complex question though lol

[install monkey]

good evening aussie ice
lets see if we can diagnose this for you

All the readings need to be taken manualy and not off the controller

Need to know what refrigerant first ?

Then allow chilled water temperature to rise enough to call for compressor to run at full load 100%

Now at full load (no saturated temperatures - actual real temperatures)

List the answers to these conditions below

Water or space medium cooled condensor

If air cooled - air on & air off
If water cooled - water in & water out

Ambient temperature

Discharge pressure
Discharge temperature
Condensor outlet temperature
Liquid line temperature (after the drier)

Suction pressure
Suction temperature

Evaporator temps/pressure taken through binda point

Water in
Water out
Water return pressure
Water flow pressure
widget speed
what colour carpet
your qualifications inc references
favourite position
basic salary
hours actually worked
charity work
space travel rate
approximate locations,altitude and freq of orbit cycles

[AussieIce]

Hi Aussie,

I think you'll find this link very helpful, it covers many of the issues you have reported,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7...eature=related

Monkey

You may have stumbled upon some of our problems here. Our inverse reactive current keeps somersaulting, with the turbo encabulator loosing power from motion and the fluxs are causing resistance, are there any alternatives to abolish this flux resistance. It would also appear we are suffering magneto reluctance being so close to earth, which also causes our panemetric fans to oscilate out of control intermittently. Which in turn now causes our craft to have a side fumbling affect, so we stripped it down this week and found two girdle springs are bent and one is broken. As you appear to be up to lightspeed with all this monkey, do carry out orbiting service calls my friend ?

[AussieIce]

C'mon fellas!!! This guy doesn't know suction from discharge pressures..

I can differentiate between pushing and pulling

[install monkey]

lets see if we can diagnose this for you

All the readings need to be taken manualy and not off the controller

Need to know what refrigerant first ?

Then allow chilled water temperature to rise enough to call for compressor to run at full load 100%

Now at full load (no saturated temperatures - actual real temperatures)

List the answers to these conditions below

Water or Air cooled condensor

If air cooled - air on & air off
If water cooled - water in & water out

Ambient temperature

Discharge pressure
Discharge temperature
Condensor outlet temperature
Liquid line temperature (after the drier)

Suction pressure
Suction temperature

Evaporator temps/pressure taken through binda point

Water in
Water out
Water return pressure
Water flow pressure

[AussieIce]

Hi Frank,
Watcha drinking....certainly not the verrialian goom juice the OP needs to keep the vogon constructor fleets from knocking your house down?

Holm, yes that name rings a bell, a good looking womaniser always having a free feel of our fellow lady cosmosnauts, so we made a few minor adjustments to his wedding tackle, by placing them outside the capsule for a few seconds did the trick, they now have a multi-coloured black and red appearance and have shrunk to a fraction of there original size, and between us friends I can whisper there was not much to shrink in the first place!

[AussieIce]

shot of gas init might help

A drop of NOS would not go a miss in our fresh air make up system

[AussieIce]

well i hope he didnt step outside for a smoke its cold in space lol supprised chillerman not commented or at least fixed it for him

Yes I am surprised also that fraction man has not tried to have a crack at this as he does with most things he does not understand

[install monkey]

maybe your operating system has gremlins-u may need to defrag ur harddrive and reinstall and add virus protection,frank might have an old copy from a few years ago!


rrr monkey!!!haha

[AussieIce]

good evening aussie ice
lets see if we can diagnose this for you

All the readings need to be taken manualy and not off the controller

Need to know what refrigerant first ?

Then allow chilled water temperature to rise enough to call for compressor to run at full load 100%

Now at full load (no saturated temperatures - actual real temperatures)

List the answers to these conditions below

Water or space medium cooled condensor

If air cooled - air on & air off
If water cooled - water in & water out

Ambient temperature

Discharge pressure
Discharge temperature
Condensor outlet temperature
Liquid line temperature (after the drier)

Suction pressure
Suction temperature

Evaporator temps/pressure taken through binda point

Water in
Water out
Water return pressure
Water flow pressure
widget speed
what colour carpet
your qualifications inc references
favourite position
basic salary
hours actually worked
charity work
space travel rate
approximate locations,altitude and freq of orbit cycles

Thats a lot of questions that dont appear to have any relevance to our equipment, it was a blo*dy installer that got us in this mess rodney, so we dont need your help thankyou, move along now [hand gesture]

[AussieIce]

maybe your operating system has gremlins-u may need to defrag ur harddrive and reinstall and add virus protection,frank might have an old copy from a few years ago!


rrr monkey!!!haha

This Frank keeps cropping up. Who is he? He the man in charge down here?

[simon@parker]

best guy i can point ya 2 to solve yr prob is chillerman 2006 he is top monkey at this kind of bollox will blow yr mind with tech stuff cant understand why he not jumped on this thread will prob wait for it to hit 350 comments for all the info to be there myself making an educated guess on this only if you look at wall in front of controller and then at controller am thinkin yr prob lies in between the two just a guess though that lol

[AussieIce]

best guy i can point ya 2 to solve yr prob is chillerman 2006 he is top monkey at this kind of bollox will blow yr mind with tech stuff cant understand why he not jumped on this thread will prob wait for it to hit 350 comments for all the info to be there myself making an educated guess on this only if you look at wall in front of controller and then at controller am thinkin yr prob lies in between the two just a guess though that lol

Surely you can recommend some with a bit more knowledge than fraction man, we need help from someone that knows what they are talking about, not guess from a trainee, I presume a trainee with such little knowledge. Maybe the widget inventor will return or your very own in house jedi master, the tall one in the photo

[chillerman2006]

Oit SpaceCadet

who you calling fraction man

thats 'Sir' to you boy
No fook*ng R's from chillerman

Gents who is this clown ? Have missed this one

[chillerman2006]

lets see if we can diagnose this for you

All the readings need to be taken manualy and not off the controller

Need to know what refrigerant first ?

Then allow chilled water temperature to rise enough to call for compressor to run at full load 100%

Now at full load (no saturated temperatures - actual real temperatures)

List the answers to these conditions below

Water or Air cooled condensor

If air cooled - air on & air off
If water cooled - water in & water out

Ambient temperature

Discharge pressure
Discharge temperature
Condensor outlet temperature
Liquid line temperature (after the drier)

Suction pressure
Suction temperature

Evaporator temps/pressure taken through binda point

Water in
Water out
Water return pressure
Water flow pressure

Haha

You copying and doctor who-ing my posts Install

R's chillerman