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Thread: Unions
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24-09-2011, 05:36 PM #1
Unions
just wondered if anyone was in a union , things are getting a bit awkward at work with management trying to change t&c's
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24-09-2011, 05:42 PM #2
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Hmmm
maybe I shouldn't but I am a bit of a fooker for taking on management
what they up to mate ??
Gis the full picture & will see if I know or know someone (employment law specialist @ home office) who can make some suggestions
As for unions, cant really do much but give advise unless they have majority of employees at your work
R's chillermanIf the World did not Suck, We would all fall off !
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24-09-2011, 05:55 PM #3
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basically trying to change working hours and they want 10 hours a week free labour
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24-09-2011, 05:56 PM #4
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I'm not a believer in unions, don't forget they have a vested interest and it may not tally with yours, they
are a business too!!
alMostly found in the southern part of this green and pleasant land.
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24-09-2011, 07:53 PM #5
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Hi Jon
If and thats a big IF....you all stick together then they have no chance, unless they are prepared to sack everyone & re-employ new.....which is unlikely
You need someone in the service team to become spokesman for all
Who can sit down and amicably put the workers side across
One thing a lot of companies are playing on is hyping up the struggles of the recession
The recession does not really hit the service industry as it does others
As the equipment still has to be serviced & even more so now with the introduction of F-Gas laws - you have your guarenteed service for compulsary leak checks, which your company should be promoting to improve business and to keep customers within the law
Even the install side has not been hit that hard this time round as all the cowboy installers have gone due again to F-gas...a friend with a service company is over-run with installs since july, which he has never promoted for !
So on the whole they appear to be just trying it on mate
All stick to your guns, as one & let the spokeman address how you can not afford the cut in money, how you will all assist in promoting F-Gas Regs & how you expect due to F-Gas work to increase not decrease
R's chillermanIf the World did not Suck, We would all fall off !
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24-09-2011, 09:20 PM #6
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they cannot ammend your contract of employment without u agreeing and signing-tell em to shove it!!
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24-09-2011, 09:28 PM #7
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Unfortunately they can mate
All they have to do is change the way you work or equipment you work on
& then after a period of time they can declare that they have been monitering
the changes within the company & they are now legally bound to ammend contracts to take into account
the norm
when you accept changes & they then become the norm, contracts have to take into account
the work you now carry out
This is a rough guide of how I understand the contract changing loophole works
R's chillermanIf the World did not Suck, We would all fall off !
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24-09-2011, 09:55 PM #8
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24-09-2011, 10:55 PM #9
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25-09-2011, 08:07 PM #10
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They can and do all the time.
All they have to do is tell you in advance what they are going to do.
If you disagree then you make yourself unemployed.
If they want to do it, they will do it.
Either take it on the chin or find another company, if you are serious and enough
of you do it they will give you better T&C's or just employ semi skilled guys.
cool runnings
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25-09-2011, 09:40 PM #11
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Write up your own collective agreement and present to employer, effectively an in house union of employees.