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    delay timer probs



    Dairy deck has now had 3 delay timers on over 3 years ,last fitted only week ago ,power to it but not timing out to feed contactor ,anyone ideas as to why its getting through so many?? i switched off condensing unit then back on and it timed out and worked anyone got a recommended type other than the EBERLE one we are using



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    Re: delay timer probs

    IMO do a programable timer, you can set them for delay on, delay off and a few other things also.

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Omron and Crouzet are my timers.

    I am also building electric boards and never had any complains about them.

    http://omron.co.uk/

    http://www.edcscotland.co.uk/acatalo...imers_214.html

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Firstly check all related connections & that it's sized correctly for your application, or just fit one with the same function but a higher current rating & maybe a different make, as Chemi said Omron/Crouzet are good..

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Thanks guys i thought that the rating was suspect ,but each engineer is ordering the part that he is replacing ,ill get a larger unit,but ..............would it actually matter as its in the control circuit and only pulling in the contactor not carrying full load??

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    Re: delay timer probs

    This is what i carry on the van

    http://uk.farnell.com/imo-precision-...ion/dp/9940391

    The last ones i got had no setting instuctions and i had to go online to get them! Check packaging before going to site!

    If it is only switching a contactor then the rating should not be a problem, unless there is a short in the wiring or someone has wired fan motors for example into the control circuit. Maybe a test with an amp probe would be worth doing.

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    Re: delay timer probs

    I would say it does matter, the coil in a contactor is an inductive load. The quality of the switch gear may also be an issue..

    One way to find out would be to fit a timer of the same make but with a higher current rating & see how long it lasts...

    Ginge

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    Re: delay timer probs

    hi
    if ur contactor has an auxillary contacts n/o n/c you can with a special connection cut the power energizing the timer so it lasts long cause its onlly energized during delaying time

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Quote Originally Posted by chemi-cool View Post
    Omron and Crouzet are my timers.

    I am also building electric boards and never had any complains about them.

    http://omron.co.uk/

    http://www.edcscotland.co.uk/acatalo...imers_214.html
    Best timers money can buy!

    If your timer contactor rating isn't matched to the contactor coils transient spike. Then you could consider using a small relay driven by the timer with 20 amp contacts, to drive the contactor coil. The circuit should last much longer with fewer problems.

    That's if tonyelians suggestion about the contactors auxiliaries, aren't included with the contactor.
    Last edited by chilliwilly; 14-11-2010 at 12:48 AM.

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    Re: delay timer probs

    The inductive spike of contactor coil will be destroying the PNP/ NPN transistor switch in timer, either go for a timer with actual contacts in it or a mini relay driving the contactor. Snubbers across contactor coil may help.
    Last edited by Magoo; 14-11-2010 at 01:45 AM. Reason: addition

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Nice replies ill be looking into it ,i knew there was something we were missing

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Hi willies,
    let us know how things panned out, good to get a resolve to problems, and feed back.

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    Re: delay timer probs

    i always use crouzet timers, also replace the contactor next time!

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Well i went back and there ws no light on the timer although power to it ,i moved the power wire from where it got its feed from to a leg of 3 phase coming in ,it lit up fired up comp and ive not had any more probs ???why would it make any diff putting it to a mains live coming in ,?

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Quote Originally Posted by willies boy View Post
    Dairy deck has now had 3 delay timers on over 3 years ,last fitted only week ago ,power to it but not timing out to feed contactor ,anyone ideas as to why its getting through so many?? i switched off condensing unit then back on and it timed out and worked anyone got a recommended type other than the EBERLE one we are using
    The problem might be that the delay timer contactor rating and the contactor coils transient spike are not matched up correctly. A different circuit should have fewer problems. You might try that.

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    Re: delay timer probs

    Been back to do maintenance at this site and all is now good ,swopping it to another leg of 3 phase cured it

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