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    Talking Reasons for system not pumping down



    hello

    I have a job which is not pumping down, I think the solenoid is letting by.

    The LP switch does cut the system off but then the pressure starts creeping up and cycles the LP on and off.

    Would anyone care to expand on this, for example are there some units which aren't suitable for a pumpdown control system?

    Thanks



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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    hi contactor,
    it sounds like the solanoid is amiss,
    valve off liquid valve, pump down strip down solinoid, fit new parts < which you took with you < fit new dryer, vac out liquid line and bobs your uncle, open liquid valve, test for leaks test operation of solinoid and fannys your aunt, sedgy,

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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    if you mean physically pumping down for service then as you say the solenoid valve is passing if you have a mechanical liquiid valve try closing that aswell valves passing are a pain in the proverbial butt either way if the pressure is rising then it's getting through the valves might be time to replace them or your oil is carring a lot of gas (just a thought)

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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    Its either the solenoid or the compressor head valves (note some scroll will not pump down to low suction pressures)

    Pump it down by shutting the reciever, if then ok then check that there is no voltage to the coil when it should be shut, if not then try a new valve.

    If it still won't pump down with the reciever shut then shut the suction valve and see if if will pump down, if not then turn comp off and see if pressure rises, if pressure rises still then (with comp off) shut discharge valve, if it now stops then comp if faulty. Note some rise is normal for scrolls when shutting off.

    Jon

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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    Quote Originally Posted by monkey spanners View Post
    Its either the solenoid or the compressor head valves (note some scroll will not pump down to low suction pressures)

    Pump it down by shutting the reciever, if then ok then check that there is no voltage to the coil when it should be shut, if not then try a new valve.

    If it still won't pump down with the reciever shut then shut the suction valve and see if if will pump down, if not then turn comp off and see if pressure rises, if pressure rises still then (with comp off) shut discharge valve, if it now stops then comp if faulty. Note some rise is normal for scrolls when shutting off.

    Jon
    I couldn't agree more.

    I have the same problem with my home chiller right now. Faulty discharge valve.

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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    thank you

    the solenoid is fitted upside down, would this be a problem, presumably not if they are sprung?

    it's an alco 1/4 swaged with 240v coil

    thanks

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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    It shouldn't be fitted upside down, there may be some debris/swarf stuck in it causing it to pass..
    Strip down inspect & if possible re-position as per manufacturers instructions..
    Don't forget to take notice of which way round the internals of the valve are when you strip it, again check against manufctrs destructions..

    Ginge
    Last edited by Gingerair; 07-11-2010 at 10:50 AM. Reason: Road to Amarillo...

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    Re: Reasons for system not pumping down

    Solenoids generally need the coil to be between 9 and 3 o'clock, but best is vertical at 12 o'clock. Never pointing down.

    Also worth checking the flow, they will only shut tight one way.

    Jon
    Last edited by monkey spanners; 07-11-2010 at 11:14 AM. Reason: -

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