Hall of shame.

[Leo1967]

Glenn............lol........it's so funny!!!

[cadwaladr]

many moons ago when i was working on a refrigeration unit on a truck a guy asked if i could look at his unit he was not sure if there was anything wrong with it but just needed reassurance as it was a 5 minute walk away i did ,i have to add this guy had a italian accent,got to the unit he asked if the [teddington] dial thermometer would read a +temperature if the cargo area got to cold ,it was reading +40degrees c i asked what was in the back ,a pallet of ice lollys . not now i said apallet of lolly sticks, we opened the door yep lolly sticks and cardboard it had stuck on heat made me laugh

[desA]

The gas bottle without valve guard reminds me of Laos. I have yet to find a valve protector over here - scary...

Question:
How would you be able to know for certain what the contents of a gas bottle is e.g. N2, or O2, if you don't trust the sprayed writing on the outside? Could even be the wrong valves for all one knows.

I literally go through my prayer list every time I use a new bottle of OFN to purge a system - in case is perchance is O2!!!

[Polaris]

Just look at this photos..
No comment needed..

[NoNickName]

Just look at this photos..
No comment needed..

I agree: it's a shame the garden is not being trimmed.

[Quality]

Welcome to RE, now thats what I call an entrance

[Eddie frigoserv]

I haven't laughed this hard since a friend told me he bought a window AC and installed it on its side because that was the only way it would fit... it ran for an hour. Great pictures!! Classic!

[Chris E G]

A favourite of mine was when a new "experienced" tech rang to abuse me about supplying faulty equipment. We had given him a tx valve that had not been manufactured properly. His complaint was that the valve (a danfoss that I rarely have any problems with) had not been manufactured with all the flares in place! Was not sure if I should tell him to put the orifice in, or to start washing our work utes....

[Polaris]

Yes my neighbour friend..it is true..
Is it correct that the price for installation of split tipe AC in Croatia is about 150 euros?
For the same job in Serbia you can`t get more than 65!
Shame for us!!!

[nike123]

Yes my neighbour friend..it is true..
Is it correct that the price for installation of split tipe AC in Croatia is about 150 euros?

Yes!......
And there are many, many "cowboys" who do it like on that pictures for almost same amount of money (120-130€), no bill, no tax payed.
Take money and run philosophy. And they have their customers (many) .

[hendrag]

hi i used to run a hall of shame section on my lg web site but now im no longer with them i better give you the new link.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/proper...eat=directlink

or search for propernasty on google web albums

if you have any more please send them to me by email propernasty@gmail.com and i will stick em up for all to see.

good luck

hendrag

[cooltools]

How about this ,a company in south wales i was working for had a new service eng his first job was re gas a car ac he then called back saying job could not be done as car was packed on hill!!!!!!!!his next job was a high temp cold room ,after 3 days still there eng sent down to see what he up to.He had changed comp,evp val and changed the gas.He was working on wrong unit!!!! he got the sack on the spot

[steemy]

hi new kid here. just having a read through/laugh at this thread and noticed that these pics hadnt popped up. apparently a russian air con install. i love how there is a couple of splits up already too.

[steemy]

oh and here is the link to the other 3 pics.

[multisync]

How about this ,a company in south wales i was working for had a new service eng his first job was re gas a car ac he then called back saying job could not be done as car was packed on hill!!!!!!!!his next job was a high temp cold room ,after 3 days still there eng sent down to see what he up to.He had changed comp,evp val and changed the gas.He was working on wrong unit!!!! he got the sack on the spot

I think that's a bit unfair- thats a lot of work for one man to complete in only 3 days!

[Andy W]

I have today been out to the worst installation I have seen in my 31 years in the fridge trade.

A Manchester company installed second hand equipment on a coldroom which they built out of odd panels, the cataloge of errors is as follows:

Outside pipework at high level not supported.
Electrical joint not weatherproof.
No lid to condensing unit housing.
Unit not screwed down (on brackets at high level)
Mains lead into unit not weatherproof and protected by an house brick.
Electrical isolator on unit not used.
Pressure switches not connected electrically or mechanically.
Drier wrong way round.
Brazing of poor standard and lost gas charge after 3 days.
R134a compressor fitted, R404a expansion valve.
Evaporator sized to room but not compressor.
Main power switch above cold room wired so neon on even when switch is off.
Water pipe insulation fitted to pipes.
E2 probe fault, no probe even present.
Floor plates loose and will trap water and fallen food stuffs as not sealed.
Equaliser line on tev valve blanked off.
Tev bulb incorrectly fitted.
No cable grommets used for cable entries.
No end panels to evaporator.
Pipework bent by hand and kinked badly.
Earth wires on t & e not sleeved.
Time clock and mechanical stat left loose above coldroom in a mess of cables.
Elliwell controller fitted to front of box as a display only but no evap probe fitted so displaying E2 probe fault.

I have pictures to prove!

[bebad]

what about lp & hp swithches? no wiring present, or prehaps they're them new telepathic type? how do you know it's 2nd hand...??? lol

[multisync]

Comfort Inn Harrow

Not the worst by any means but a typical 'self instal'

[thebigcheese]

that is shockenly bad. no way a fridge company could leave something that bad?

[Pol]

[lowcool]

i take it thats 4 isolators for 5 units

[jdunc2301]

looking really chuffed with the install..... just dont trip on the power cable draped across mid-air

[wingman]

*snort* I love this thread,

[lowcool]

didnt know you blokes got boat people

[Y L Lai]

I take all these as industrial fxxk ups and had good laugh. This was what I experienced: Few years back I sold a LT condensing unit and a unit cooler to a contractor who normally install small A/C units. Few days later he called me and told me the system was not functioning. I went to site and did not know to laugh or cry. Yes.... What you're thinking is right. He assumed this would work just like 1hp A/C units, 2 CU pipe, power supply and it'll function. No TXV, filter drier, pressure switches etc were installed. Thank god nothing was damage.

[just chilling]

went to a yacht the other week. has an isotherm brand name hold over plate. and a danfoss 12 volt compressor. yacht owner said she has had the yacht one year and the fridge has never worked well.

it took us a while to locate the compressor which was hot enough to fry an egg on. and came to realise the condenser had not been installed... yes you read correctly no condenser.... the mongrel who put in the system had just brazed the compressor discharge straight into the capillary. that supplied the evap hold over plate.

I would love to know how he got hold of the gas..

[AUcooler]

Heres a couple of my favs. There must a be tech in the area that believes that externally equalized TXV redily convert to internally equalized. The second pic was no doubt the cheapest quote accepted.

[Peter_1]

Something similar
Bulb is cut off, outlet TEV is shut off brazed
This was on the stand of a well known manufacturer on a big fare in Brussels to show their new products.

[ardent]

I used to be the Refrigeration manager/engineer for a fridge company that installed bulk milk tanks.
C****T,some of the installations were amazing,and how the herdsman never got zapped....,

[monkey spanners]

I used to be the Refrigeration manager/engineer for a fridge company that installed bulk milk tanks.
C****T,some of the installations were amazing,and how the herdsman never got zapped....,

A zap helps to keep them awake at 4am

[Paul J]

I was called to a walk in freezer owned by a deer velvet farmer, he had two different companies attempt to fix his freezer which wouldn't get below -9 degrees C, both companies thought it was short of gas so both put more gas in, when I got there the relief valve on the receiver was weeping liquid out and the compressor was short cycling on an auto reset HP switch, both companies told him it was natural for the compressor to cycle like that, looking at the electrical panel the fault was immediately apparent, the defrost element contactor had seized closed and was constantly running the elements even while refrigerating. I believe the two other guys had come to their conclusions even before they got to site. I believe the moral is not to assume anything and prove whats right first, not whats wrong.

[D.D.KORANNE]

Experienced technical hands even switched suction & discharge lines & complained compressor is behaving crazy, suction line hot & discharge line cold

they concluded :
1) that i have installed pistons wrongly whereby this happened

2) claimed they have 10 years hands on system like this & most likely compressor is running in anti-clockwise direction has resulted this.

Unwilling to listen reasoning & missing out simple reference to the operating manual to identify discharge & suction valve ports.

[nike123]

Experienced technical hands even switched suction & discharge lines & complained compressor is behaving crazy, suction line hot & discharge line cold

they concluded :
1) that i have installed pistons wrongly whereby this happened

2) claimed they have 10 years hands on system like this & most likely compressor is running in anti-clockwise direction has resulted this.

Unwilling to listen reasoning & missing out simple reference to the operating manual to identify discharge & suction valve ports.

Nothing new here, I see that every day, especially with some older refrigeration service engineers known here as "reputable". Some are like "Geese in the fog".

[baycuclaudyu]

This is happening when the split is not mounted good I see this ac when I drive through the city

[andy32]

I started at a place last monday were they used a old compressor as a vac pump used a line tap to charge r600 had no way to pressure test a system , they also operated out of a unmarked unit and paid everyone cash in hand , obviously i walked out , I did try explaining that it was dangerous to charge fridges that was but they could not care less , oh I was also given a 12v dc fan motor and was expected to use it to replace a 18 w 240 fan motor , all these fridges are domestics and would have ended up in someones house I am going to have to report them to the relevant authorities as what are doing will probably end up killing someone

[Oleg]

One company in Peterborough asked me how much I charge to fix R600 and how long does it takes...
I said 3-4h if compressor plus electricaly isolated tools. Later I found out very similar things.... no tools, no knowledge and n pressure test... they du pressure test with Air Compressor

[NoNickName]

Greece. Athens. 4-stars hotel. Go figure.

[nike123]

I see 3 Fujitsu and one Chinese.

[Joe D]

Regards the hall of shame during the seventies whilst working as an apprentice in Glasgow one of our journeymen mysteriously disappeared after attending to a breakdown at the police mortuary,it turns out he was in hospital suffering head injuries,the reason for the injury was at the mortuary he decided to play a joke on the appie and sent him for a 12 inch shifter meantime getting under a shroud, when the appie returned he rose up under the shroud to give him a fright, needless to say he received a whack from the shifter and had to be taken to hospital. A good case to wear a hard hat.

[hillbillywillie]

joe-that's as funny as feck!
i can just imagine the language of the guy under the sheets!
But the appie would really batter a corpse?

[richardb14]

Regards the hall of shame during the seventies whilst working as an apprentice in Glasgow one of our journeymen mysteriously disappeared after attending to a breakdown at the police mortuary,it turns out he was in hospital suffering head injuries,the reason for the injury was at the mortuary he decided to play a joke on the appie and sent him for a 12 inch shifter meantime getting under a shroud, when the appie returned he rose up under the shroud to give him a fright, needless to say he received a whack from the shifter and had to be taken to hospital. A good case to wear a hard hat.

that story still does the rounds!

[allanIIIrd]

I was a refrigeration and a/c engineer in a health care facility a few years back. It is my job back then to supervise installations of a/c and refrigeration equipment, one day I assigned 2 greenhorns to install a 2horse power window type a/c, the work went along well that day. the following day my supervisor had asked why didn't I installed the a/c, so I asked the two people who I asked to Install the a/c and they told that they had it installed and they to are baffled of mysterious disappearance of the said unit. so in parallel of the ongoing investigation I gave an order to install a new one, by the next day the unit that was previously installed had disappear again. so I went outside and look for the unit and noticed that instead of the usual expansion shield for bracket mounting they used wooden plug and nails and there is deep and murky fish pond directly below the opening for the window type.

guess what is in the fish pond, the second unit sticking out of the water.

case was closed and as for the two I had them cleaning duty of the window type a/c for a year.

[flyinkiwi]

Years ago, while working for the 'leading' refrig company in NZ, I attended a call to a truck unit which had been recently worked on by our third year apprentice. The reefer was tripping out on HP. Airflow was fine, but subcooling was unusually high. I reclaimed the refrigerant - and then charged the unit with 4 of the 10kg I removed from the system...

[ktm]

Got a call to a small spit that a subby put in but didn't seem to work. Head pressure was almost 60 bar on r410. He pressure tested to 42 bar with nitrogen. When it held over night he just opened the valves and ran it. Amazed it was still on the wall. Recovered vaced and recharged and amzingly it's worked perfect ever since. Needles to say he does no work for us now.

[Dr Death]

Only 2 to add from me :-

i) Asked to follow up another 'engineer' who had faulted a compressor on a chiller but had included no details. Last time I looked it was unusual to find a compressor on an absorber !

ii) Asked to follow up 3 different 'engineers' investigating un-satisfactory performance from a VRV. Much better operation with the service valves open !

I fear this is just a sad reflection on the state of our industry !

[eggs]

Today I was surveying a local school. I noticed that some work had gone ahead that I had previously bid for.

I didn't get the job......... I was too expensive

Perhaps you get what you pay for ??
The local electrician didn't have a level, or any idea how to support a condenser in a school playground above children's heads. Check out the wood screws.




Oh.....and I warned them not to confuse MHI with MEUK.

Eggs

[monkey spanners]

Looks like he fired the rawlbolt into the mortar too
Which they are not designed for....

[Colin G]

and there is a mad man in the window singing YMCA

[Colin G]

anyway, you reckon that slope is to aid oil return?

[cool runings]

and there is a mad man in the window singing YMCA

I saw the YMCA madman

anyway, you reckon that slope is to aid oil return?

Great minds think alike

Cool runnings.

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