View Poll Results: Is a grouped buy of AC meaningfull?

Voters
7. You may not vote on this poll
  • Not at all

    0 0%
  • Not interested at all

    0 0%
  • Yes

    6 85.71%
  • There is no market for this units

    1 14.29%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    AC units as cooling units



    Just a wild, perhaps stupid idea of me: should a grouped import of cheap, unlabeled outdoor units - only the outdoors - for use in small cooling applications not be a good idea?
    We could ask that they fit a dryer and a small receiver in the unit and perhaps a fan speed controller.
    Topped of with a sight glass and a filterdryer.
    They don't have to fill them with gas and on't have to deliver copper lines, only the unit.
    We can ask for prices without obligations
    I think they can make it for half the price we pay now for an outdoor unit with a weather protection.

    Peter
    Last edited by Peter_1; 12-12-2004 at 08:16 AM.


    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,099
    Rep Power
    27

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    Peter

    I am quite intrested in the idea............
    Could even have them labelled up as something.......
    Any opinions, statements and facts expressed in this message do not constitute legal advice in any shape or form and is given for a general outlook in nature. You are advised to seek appropriate and specific professional assistance from a regulated and authorised advisor for definitive advice.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    England
    Age
    51
    Posts
    744
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    forgive me, but these units will they be for small dairy cabinets? and such like?

    cheers

    eggs

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    Aiyub, maybe "Aiycool"

    Eggs, you can use them in any application where you need +/- 6 kW cooling at -10°C (for the largest units).

    Oh, I forgot, perhaps a dryer and a sight-glass already fitted in the unit.
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Teddington
    Posts
    5
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    As usual with great ideas, someone already thought of it. The new J & E Hall low noise outdoor condensing units are derived from their A/C range made in Malaysia but using European sourced components - mainly Danfoss. They ustilize the same casings but have receiver, hp/lp, drier, sight glass, fan speed controller and even full IP55 starter panel with isolator. Low temp models also have oil seps. And yes, they are very competetive. You can buy them from AFR Refrigeration Ltd. in England tel. +44208 875 1999. They also have European distributors.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    We did it already 10 years ago.
    Share us some prices please.
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Teddington
    Posts
    5
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    e.g. unit based on Maneurop MTZ64 ( c. 10KW @ -10C. evap ) we would sell for pounds sterling 1161 in UK.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    Quote Originally Posted by rudyreg
    e.g. unit based on Maneurop MTZ64 ( c. 10KW @ -10C. evap ) we would sell for pounds sterling 1161 in UK.
    This not expensive but VERY expensive.
    What do you think Chemi regarding the prices I showed you?
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    England
    Age
    51
    Posts
    744
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    Peter, i mainly buy 3.5kw evap -10 and 6kw evap-10 for multideck dairy display cabinets 2.5m long and 3.75m long.
    what is the price for these on the continent?
    for the "silentsys" type systems i pay bout £900 & £1100.

    cheers

    eggs

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    Well, a complete unit, indoor (wall mounted) and outdoor which can give 3,5 kW at -10°C will cost 232 US$ cooling only and 239 (only 7$ more) for a heat pump version (+/- 125 £)

    I'm sure they can fit units with sight glasses, receiver and filter-dryer for less than the price a indoor unit costs.
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Belgium
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,630
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    Quote Originally Posted by rudyreg
    ... The new J & E Hall low noise outdoor condensing units .....You can buy them from AFR Refrigeration Ltd. in England tel. +44208 875 1999. They also have European distributors.
    Searched on both webpages and didn't found the units.

    The AFR webpage is very slowly: none of the links (the logo's) are working, you have to click at the bottom bar links.
    Hope their service is better.
    Last edited by Peter_1; 18-03-2005 at 07:37 AM.
    It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Romania
    Age
    58
    Posts
    66
    Rep Power
    20

    Re: AC units as cooling units

    well I was putting once( 1998) a second hand outdor units ( 50 DM was the price, total cost the owner pay was 800 DM) 2 kw electric power, 380 v ,on a display cabinet 4 metters lenght and the only problem I have since then was the fan .I change it 2 times. Good work i say.

Similar Threads

  1. temporary removal of indoor units off a VRV
    By rbartlett in forum Air Conditioning
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 27-06-2006, 05:44 PM
  2. cooling tower without fillings
    By Lc_shi in forum Fundamentals
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 27-12-2005, 12:55 AM
  3. Cooling tower evaporation, blowdown, makeup and cycles
    By miltbeychok in forum Industrial
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 14-10-2005, 06:34 PM
  4. Cooling tower evaporation, blowdown, makeup and cycles
    By miltbeychok in forum Fundamentals
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 13-10-2005, 05:14 AM
  5. Regulation of cooling capacity
    By npaisnel in forum Domestic
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 08-02-2002, 11:22 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •