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    R12



    Im working on a small system, it is short of gas and is on r12, im having great trouble getting such a refrigerant, were can I get it?

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    Re: R12

    The short answer is you can't get R12 anymore

    It is a CFC and has been banned

    There are drop-ins available depending what the system is

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    Re: R12

    Dont try to give me this bull****!!! I want R12!!!!

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    Re: R12

    You will properly get R12 from china.

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    Re: R12

    What you need to do is get yourself a balloon, a long thin tube and some string.

    Tie one end of the thin tube to the balloon with the string and let it float up till it gets to the hole in the ozone layer, this is caused by R12 so once the balloon has reached this height, just suck the R12 down with a vacuum cleaner, if you block the exhaust on the vacuum cleaner it will work just like a recovery machine.

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    Re: R12

    R12 is an illegal substance not only to sell but to use. You would be better off to recover the remaining R12 for destruction, thoroughly leak test the system and repair all leaks that you find. Carry out an OFN pressure test, evacuate the system and re-charge with R413A or Isceon 49 which is available from HRP and other specialist wholesalers. You may need to reduce the quantity of refrigerant slightly, that is if you know the exact weight of refrigerant that was originally installed and you should get the same performance and pressures as with R12 without having to change the oil.

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    Re: R12

    have you got a f-gas certificate to work with refrigerants . ie c&g 2078 or 2079 or a citb eqiv.

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    Re: R12

    Quote Originally Posted by Tullyvernon View Post
    Dont try to give me this bull****!!! I want R12!!!!

    Oh dear, a serious attitude problem here.

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    Well he says he is in refrigeration but I have my doubts with his lack of knowledge about R12 and the law.
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    Re: R12

    Quote Originally Posted by monkey spanners View Post
    What you need to do is get yourself a balloon, a long thin tube and some string.

    Tie one end of the thin tube to the balloon with the string and let it float up till it gets to the hole in the ozone layer, this is caused by R12 so once the balloon has reached this height, just suck the R12 down with a vacuum cleaner, if you block the exhaust on the vacuum cleaner it will work just like a recovery machine.

    ms
    Thanks I tried this but unfortunatly all I was able to recover was R404?? what did I do wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul thompson View Post
    have you got a f-gas certificate to work with refrigerants . ie c&g 2078 or 2079 or a citb eqiv.
    Whats F-Gas?????

    Im a Painter by trade

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    Re: R12

    Quote Originally Posted by Tullyvernon View Post
    Thanks I tried this but unfortunatly all I was able to recover was R404?? what did I do wrong?
    I should have said that you need one of those dyson hoovers with the little cyclones in them, each one seperates a different refrigerant.

    Very clever man that Mr Dyson

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    Re: R12

    Thanks, I used a Red Henry!!! woops, how long would it take to recover 4Kgs??

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    Re: R12

    Ya should always use a green hoover for recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tullyvernon View Post
    Whats F-Gas?????

    Im a Painter by trade
    Sorry to tell but finding cylinders of R12 nowadays is about as scarce as getting hold of cans of striped paint.
    Can you find that any more?

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    Re: R12

    Quote Originally Posted by Tullyvernon View Post
    Whats F-Gas?????

    Im a Painter by trade
    more like a plumber than a painter .what a tool

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    Funny managed to find a few tins of striped paint on ebay there! lucky find but very expensive!!

    How are ya Paul Tompson? hedged any vans lately????

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    Re: R12

    attitude
    i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougie View Post
    attitude
    i think
    i agree , what a knob head (as my old gaffer used to call his shall we say lesser skilled engineers) .

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    Re: R12

    Ladies Ladies please.....
    Saucer of milk for table two...meeoowww

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    Re: R12

    Quote Originally Posted by multisync View Post

    Apart from being illegal to use it`s probably a cylinder of reclaimed mixed gas, and scrap at that. You won`t know until your system goes wonky.
    Just imagine trying to get your money back, via ebay, on an illegal transaction.

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    Re: R12

    Questions like this should be ignored as the writer is either taking the you know what, or not & should never be in the trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn1340 View Post
    Apart from being illegal to use it`s probably a cylinder of reclaimed mixed gas, and scrap at that. You won`t know until your system goes wonky.
    Just imagine trying to get your money back, via ebay, on an illegal transaction.
    I know

    However it seems to have gone...damn

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    Re: R12

    can i have some R-2 ? pmsl

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    Re: R12

    Is that R2D2?
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    Re: R12

    come to Africa and R12 are readly available but expensive.but why R12 and R134a are there? i think you are becoming a trouble shooter in this trade.leave and do your painting friend.

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