J Sainsbury

[panda]

I belive its all in the open,what a shame for WR,come on Space,,,............

[julius Geezer]

I think you'll find WR's woes are a result of it's parent company ,The Hurre Group , borrowing to much cash off The Icelandic Banks/Russian Mafia to fund it's expansion programme ! Hence The Parent Co looking after it's Scandinavian interests first and everyone else second as The Icelandic government is trying to claw as much cash back as possible and WR has suffered , sadly .As for the Sainsbury's contract i'll quote Bill (The cupboard is bare) Kenwright
"WATCH THIS SPACE"

[top engineer]

could you enlighten me on whats happening at wr

[panda]

could you enlighten me on whats happening at wr

they lost 90 stores I believe.

[aacr]

Space has the contract for the west. Shifts starting June 15th?

[Spencer.Guy]

Sainsbury have now gone back to a combined contract.
Fridge and H & V and Electrical / Mechanical all done by the same contractor in store.
Locals in the same area also covered by that contractor and not by Project first.

[coolhibby1875]

wr had only 48 stores pretty much smallfry comparied to the 1660 tesco they have

[Ke-Fibertec UK]

Who does a lot of the work for ASDA?
they have soo many new stores opening up at the moment!
We are supplying our 5th store so far this year.

[multisync]

Who does a lot of the work for ASDA?
they have soo many new stores opening up at the moment!
We are supplying our 5th store so far this year.

Err this is a Sainsbury thread. It is VERY bad manners to hijack someone elses thread esp if you cannot contribute

[coolhibby1875]

hi ke-fibertec the asda work is done by city facility holdings in the uk

[NIKK38]

Space has the contract for the west. Shifts starting June 15th?

I can't see this happening. Now that Space know for certain they have the Sainsbury's contract it's thrown a spanner in the works and all the areas will be juggled about, AGAIN. The size of the area dictates the the number of engineers, per area. Until they know how many engineers they have to work with, they cannot sort out a rota.
The new contracts stated that shifts/salary would start from June 1st. As this has not happened, does that mean that the contracts are not worth the paper they are written on?
It's a sad state of affairs when engineers find out more from this forum than they do from their employer.
Sainsbury's want the new joint contract up and running from July 1st. Engineers will have to be TUPE'd across in double quick time. I can't see that happening either.
Lastly......Anyone that is TUPE'd across will start work on their existing T&C's. Space will have to run hourly paid workers along side guys working shifts/salary.
Not sure how that will work
Maybe someone from Space will chime in and give their thoughts on the matter.

[tony--1]

Can you tell me why ppl will be TUPEd ?

[NIKK38]

Can you tell me why ppl will be TUPEd ?

Have a look here, to see why.http://http://www.out-law.com/page-448

[richelli]

Thats a dead link. Tony knows what tuped is, hes asking why will people be tuped. WR dont have that many Sainsbury stores? so it wont affect them that much.

[NIKK38]

Thats a dead link. Tony knows what tuped is, hes asking why will people be tuped. WR dont have that many Sainsbury stores? so it wont affect them that much.

THe TUPE reference I made was with regard to the companies that have lost their M&E/HVAC contract to Space, eg SGMS.

[Spencer.Guy]

THe TUPE reference I made was with regard to the companies that have lost their M&E/HVAC contract to Space, eg SGMS.

And Space, Airkool, Project first, who have lost Refrigeration in stores to SGMS in the Midlands and North East.

Shifts /Salary has been indefinitely suspended.

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[NIKK38]

And Space, Airkool, Project first, who have lost Refrigeration in stores to SGMS in the Midlands and North East.

Shifts /Salary has been indefinitely suspended.

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Say's who ?

[Silhouette]

Hi Nikk38,
Do you have a brother named Paul?

Regards,
Silhouette

[Silhouette]

All the Space staff in the midlands and east Anglia are tupeing across to SGMS and Project First. Shift/salary is on hold but will be instigated once everything settles back down!!

[NIKK38]

Hi Nikk38,
Do you have a brother named Paul?

Regards,
Silhouette

No.............

[coolhibby1875]

sainsburys shamburys parasense 3am see ya lol!!!!

[compressormick]

sgms have a lot of the stores space look after.tupe

[julius Geezer]

Ha , Parasense or Para****e as it was affectionately known ! Absolute rubbish it was....!

[Colin G]

Ha , Parasense or Para****e as it was affectionately known ! Absolute rubbish it was....!

I always seemed to get the task of pulling them damm hoses in, feckin chore would rather spend all night peeling the spilt armaflex glue of the terrazo tiles.

[compressormick]

i am a lucky space engineer getting tupe'd to sgms.the way space have gone about changing our contracts stinks.so long space.ha ha.

[tony--1]

At least they are getting back some of the crap they installed ..... pity we put them right for them !!

[coolhibby1875]

i have not meet any engineer post parasense that likes this contract i for 1 will not miss the 3 am call out for a critical parasense alarm or trying to repair a leak on a oil line on a 20 year old screw pack then having to add 90 kg of r22 gas and a manager standing behind you moaning about his freezers in my opinion ther whole estate is a big bag of ****!

[Brian_UK]

Lots of 'dead link' comments above;

simple cure, correct the link given and use this..

http://www.out-law.com/page-448

[julius Geezer]

I always seemed to get the task of pulling them damm hoses in, feckin chore would rather spend all night peeling the spilt armaflex glue of the terrazo tiles.

What ?
Are you American/Scottish/Or on Glue ?

[CJG21]

What way has the contract been divvied up in England? I know Montgomery has got Northern Ireland and Scotland

[Spencer.Guy]

Space = North West down to the South West.
SGMS Midlands and North East.
Project First = East Anglia and South East.

Don't know the Exact division in the South, i.e whether Space have London / Greater London or Project First.

Locals go to whoever has the relevant area, no longer national contracts.

Oh look, that's 4 contractors.