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    Question excessive suction temp



    hi
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    pls help me I am mechanical eng. but I am new in refrigeration system I have trouble with vilter single screw comp. work with 717R (ammonia) the suction temp in normal condtion is -30c & the pressure is 0.0 kpa. but now the suction temp is -7 c & the pressure still 0.0 kpa. there is no efficiency !!,where is the broplem?? how can I fix it?



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    Re: excessive suction temp

    Quote Originally Posted by engiraq
    with 717R (ammonia) the suction temp in normal condtion is -30c & the pressure is 0.0 kpa. but now the suction temp is -7 c & the pressure still 0.0 kpa.


    This seems like a problem of not having enough liquid in the evaporator causing higher than normal suction superheat. I am assuming the compressor is fully loaded at 100% capacity.

    Last edited by US Iceman; 03-06-2009 at 02:18 AM. Reason: fixed quote
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    Re: excessive suction temp

    thanks iceman ,the capacity is 100%

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    Re: excessive suction temp

    If the compressor is at 100% and you high suction superheat my logic (based on a very small amount of information) is this: there is just enough liquid entering the evaporator to keep the suction pressure high when the compressor is fully loaded. However, if the superheat starts to increase this tells me the evaporator is not fully wet with enough liquid to keep the superheat at the normal point.

    Therefore, the evaporator is evaporating what liquid is present and the resulting vapor is being superheated in the evaporator (which does very little actual cooling).

    How much liquid do you have in the high pressure receiver?
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    Re: excessive suction temp

    Hi
    if system is at 100% and suction is rising, your client is overloading and system cannot cope, check motor amps, air on air off evap temperatures. Discharge pressures.
    Clients have a great habit of doing that and blame the system performance.
    Remember "heat in equals heat out ".
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    Re: excessive suction temp

    if you mean high pressure reciever that one contact with liquid pump it have much liquid a bove the 75% & liquid pump pressure is 4 bar its normal !!

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    Re: excessive suction temp

    Have to agree with ICEMAN, not enough liquid in the evap, if everything else in Normal.

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    Re: excessive suction temp

    What would happen if the TXV were to cut back the refrigerant flow too much?

    Wouldn't the evap over evaporate & hence push up the exit superheat?
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    Re: excessive suction temp

    not enough NH³ in system ore blocking along the way back.

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    Re: excessive suction temp

    Quote Originally Posted by desA View Post
    What would happen if the TXV were to cut back the refrigerant flow too much?

    Wouldn't the evap over evaporate & hence push up the exit superheat?
    TXV on a NH3?
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    Re: excessive suction temp

    good one peter (lol)

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