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    converting a calculation to Si

    I have just read a post from a few years back and have noticed this
    "Most condensors operate at a close to estimated temperature of 30 degrees F over ambient.
    So if we know what the ambient is and add 30 degrees F to it we can safely estimate,

    Lets take a look at the suction pressure
    similiar as above excecpt normal operating sytems have an average coil temp of 15 degrees f
    below temp controlled area".

    But if i were to convert these temps to DegC then 30F would be -1.1DegC
    and 15f would be -9.44, surely this cant be right for si units?
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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    You have two things when converting Fahrenheit to Si units.
    First is actual temperature which is converted in Celsius degree and second is temperature interval converted in Kelvin

    You need to distinguish in text what is what and corectly convert that.

    Fahrenheit temperature is converted in Celsius degree by subtracting 32 from Fahrenheit temperature and than multiplied by 5/9.
    Fahrenheit temperature interval is converted in Kelvin by multiplying Fahrenheit interval with only 5/9.

    In your example:
    30°F=30x5/9=16,6666666K
    15°F=15x5/9=8,33333333K

    For ambient temperature:

    40°F=(40-32)x5/9=8x5/9=4,44444444°C
    Last edited by nike123; 10-05-2009 at 09:51 PM.

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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    ok so in si units, head pressure should be roughly ambient + what in DegC

    and also suction pressure should be space temp - what in DegC?

    Just as a rule of thumb.

    Ah ok just noticed your edit so the head pressure should be 16Deg C and the sp 8DegC?
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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    Quote Originally Posted by marc5180 View Post
    ok so in si units, head pressure should be roughly ambient + what in DegC

    and also suction pressure should be space temp - what in DegC?

    Just as a rule of thumb.

    Ah ok just noticed your edit so the head pressure should be 16Deg C and the sp 8DegC?

    Read again more carefully. It is once more edited.

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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    If you have condenser air in temperature of 30°C than 30°F over ambient would be 46,66666°C
    If you have air in temperature at evaporator of -18°C than 15°F below ambient would be -26,3°C.

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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    Now you've got me, where have you got 46.6 and 26.3 from? Im confues because you are using both °C and °F.
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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    Quote Originally Posted by marc5180 View Post
    Now you've got me, where have you got 46.6 and 26.3 from? Im confues because you are using both °C and °F.
    Quote Originally Posted by nike123 View Post
    You have two things when converting Fahrenheit to Si units.
    First is actual temperature which is converted in Celsius degree and second is temperature interval converted in Kelvin

    You need to distinguish in text what is what and corectly convert that.

    Fahrenheit temperature is converted in Celsius degree by subtracting 32 from Fahrenheit temperature and than multiplied by 5/9.
    Fahrenheit temperature interval is converted in Kelvin by multiplying Fahrenheit interval with only 5/9.

    In your example:
    30°F=30x5/9=16,6666666K
    15°F=15x5/9=8,33333333K


    For ambient temperature:

    40°F=(40-32)x5/9=8x5/9=4,44444444°C
    ..........................
    Last edited by nike123; 10-05-2009 at 09:51 PM.

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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    Ok so for example if i had a condensor air in of 30°C then (40°F for example only) over ambient would be 52.22°C.
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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    I hoped there would be a simple way to check like the way the quote sounded

    Discharge pressure should = say 15°C plus the ambient
    Suction pressure should = say 10°C plus ambient (RA).
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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    Quote Originally Posted by marc5180 View Post
    I hoped there would be a simple way to check like the way the quote sounded

    Discharge pressure should = say 15°C plus the ambient
    Suction pressure should = say 10°C plus ambient (RA).
    http://www.refrigeration-engineer.co...75&postcount=5

    All values here should be in Kelvins, but amount is same.
    Last edited by nike123; 10-05-2009 at 08:38 PM.

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    Re: converting a calculation to Si

    Quote Originally Posted by marc5180 View Post
    Ok so for example if i had a condensor air in of 30°C then (40°F for example only) over ambient would be 52.22°C.
    Yes, you got it.

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