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10-06-2004, 03:04 PM #1
p/t charts
hello all help me where can i obtain p/t charts for new refrigerants ? thank all
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10-06-2004, 03:12 PM #2
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www.sporlan.com
Chemi
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10-06-2004, 11:00 PM #3
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This link should take you to Solvay's fluorinated chemicals page
http://www.solvaychemicals.com/produ...html#PG1000049
Pull the page down to located the refrigerant of your choice, then on the sidebar click 'datasheets' the resulting page will give you downloadable vapour tables and ph charts, all in SI units.
Otherwise search 'solvay refrigerants' in google.
Hope it helps.
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Honda LegendLast edited by Argus; 07-02-2011 at 08:06 AM.
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11-06-2004, 02:16 AM #4
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Originally Posted by chemi-cool
Additional refrigerant data can be found here: http://www.sporlan.com/5-162.htmProf Sporlan
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11-06-2004, 08:18 PM #5
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I downloaded Prof Sporlans chart
Looks good, ( wicked) on screen, but prints diabolically
Also, could do with a metric version
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11-06-2004, 08:32 PM #6
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You are right Abe,
I also wonder why nobody at Sporlan noticed that most of the world uses the metric system and C degrees.
Chemi
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11-06-2004, 08:41 PM #7
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Originally Posted by chemi-cool
cheers
richard
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11-06-2004, 09:03 PM #8
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because they're americans and they are the WHOLE world as far as they're concerned.. ;-)
Do you order your fridge pipework from NRS or whoever and say - 30m of 1/2" pipe plus armaflex etc. without thinking. I know this subject has been covered in the past but we in the UK move between SI and Imperial without thinking. At least the Americans stick to one type, - perhaps it is us that are the ones who think we know best but really don't? (I know that you replyed in jest, please take my response in jest) food for thought eh?
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11-06-2004, 10:39 PM #9
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Frank
As a EEC nation..........we are bound by Directive to abandon, imperial.......thats the Law
Came in over 5 years ago
Where do u see anything in Imperial here?????
Only..........copper tube got left behind............And no ones noticing...............or bothered!!!!
I grew up in days of imperial..........u know, pounds, shillings and pence
Then the switch to Metric.............which I found a lot more easy...........and logical
So I " could" switch between the two
Now...........Give me metric anyday !!!!
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12-06-2004, 03:38 AM #10
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Originally Posted by rbartlett
Originally Posted by frankProf Sporlan
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12-06-2004, 12:32 PM #11
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Ahh Prof......you are such a wise generous ruler !!!
But, for us "poor" folk kneeling down , staring at the glint off your polished armour.............please could you oblige us with a pressure / temperature chart in metric...........your worship !!!!
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12-06-2004, 03:32 PM #12
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Hi Abe,
Got some nice software for refrigerants.
Go to http://www.isceon-refrigerants.co.uk...nglishdow.html
and download the software "iscool", its not big and has all the information on each refrigerant.
You will have to install it on your computer but its not big.
Chemi
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12-06-2004, 05:26 PM #13
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Gentelmen,
It's obvious that we're all out of step all over the world except the septics.
The link I gave you earlier to Solvay's site is all SI.
No Pounds, Gallons or or Fahrenheit to be seen.
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mexico city hotelLast edited by Argus; 07-02-2011 at 08:06 AM.
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12-06-2004, 09:04 PM #14
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Hi Argus,
Whoops, I've missed your link.
Yes, its fine and useful.
Chemi
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13-06-2004, 04:26 AM #15
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Every now and then the metric fascists come out of the woodwork and try to impose their extremes on us. Like the UK, Australia converted from imperial to metric decades ago, but because of the number of idiot/fascists involved, some strange things occured.
2 inch pipe could be 50mm or 50.8mm. Similarly 50mm pipe could be 50.8mm. Dual unit tape measures and rulers became a prohibited import, in the same category as sword sticks. They were oblivious to the fact that integrated circuits at the time came with pins a tenth of an inch apart, and you needed imperial measures to work with them.
Copper pipe is still made in imperial sizes and given incorrect metric names.
A popular beer glass size is 285 ml (half pint) and the metric police wanted to ban these.
Generally, I think that the Americans have got it right, with a lot of industry slowly converting over where it is practical. I am surprised that the HVAC profession isn't shifting faster, considering the complications and confusions with pounds force and pounds mass. Dossat's book where he has both imperial and metric sections shows the advantage of not having to worry about gravitational acceleration in the metric system.
Mark BakerMark Baker
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13-06-2004, 05:44 PM #16
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The English man from Newcastle who dared to sell his market produce in pounds and ounces died recently from the pressure of defending his rights in the courts - may he rest in peace, but at least he fought to the end. Tony blair (for those across the pond he is our illustrious President - opps, sorry, our Prime Minister) not so long ago came out of number 10 and announced that his new born son weighed 8lbs 10ozs. Now - are we metric or what.????
We drive on the right, adhere to speed limits that are in mph, drink pints not litres, buy clothes to suit say a 40" chest, read pressures on our gauges in psig, calculate cooling duty in kw, buy copper in inch's, charge refrigerant in kilo's - need I go on ???
Just where do we stand in the UK?
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13-06-2004, 07:31 PM #17
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Hi Frank,
Thats all right, look at the bright side, you used to calculate duty in BTU and TR.
I guess there is a chance.
By the way, how do you measure the air pressure in your van's tires?
Chemi
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14-06-2004, 01:25 AM #18
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Originally Posted by frank
In the U.S., we're moving to the SI system micron by micron...Prof Sporlan
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14-06-2004, 07:16 PM #19
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By the way, how do you measure the air pressure in your van's tires?
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14-06-2004, 07:20 PM #20
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By the way, how do you measure the air pressure in your van's tires?
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