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    Quote Originally Posted by cadwaladr View Post
    passed mine last week,a little tricky i will wait and see if any wholesalers ask for it i shudder when i meet other engineers? in the spares shop .it was very informative the coarse now to pass on to my clients the legal side of it,by the way you can still buy 134a from halfords i will check on the 5th of july if they still do and will ask them do i need any training /qualifications to put it in my friends car a/c system,


    On the course they should have told you about car AC/

    Car AC is not yet covered by Fgas and as for Halfords selling 134a, The letter
    of the law stated that they could sell off existing stock. The trouble is they gave companies
    about 6 years notice to stock pile reserves of the stuff.

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    Re: C&g 2079

    so anyone can mess with car a/c?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadwaladr View Post
    so anyone can mess with car a/c?
    Thats the grey area.

    No in short.

    For you or any one else to work on any form of fridge circuit, a qualification
    is required and the minimum is the C&G 2079 or CITB J11.

    Fgas does not effect you!!!! You still need to be qualified to a minimum standard
    to prove your competant, but Fgas does effect the customer. Fgas now makes
    the customer responsible, legaly for all fridge and AC on his premisses.
    But only if there is a charge of more than 3Kg's inside it.

    You still need the qualification to work on the fridge, AC or car, but not because of
    Fgas. You need qualifications because they have refrigerants inside. The level of qual
    depends on the weight of refrigeration. You could be Cat 2 and only legaly work on systems
    less than 3Kg.

    All the best

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    For you or any one else to work on any form of fridge circuit, a qualification
    is required and the minimum is the C&G 2079 or CITB J11.

    Fgas does not effect you!!!! You still need to be qualified to a minimum standard
    to prove your competant, but Fgas does effect the customer. Fgas now makes
    the customer responsible, legaly for all fridge and AC on his premisses.
    But only if there is a charge of more than 3Kg's inside it.

    You still need the qualification to work on the fridge, AC or car, but not because of
    Fgas. You need qualifications because they have refrigerants inside. The level of qual
    depends on the weight of refrigeration. You could be Cat 2 and only legaly work on systems
    less than 3Kg.
    Taz,

    Sorry, but I beg to differ - C&G 2079 is not required to work on vehicles. C&G 2079 is only needed to work on STATIC fridge systems.

    There are lower standard qualifications which satisfy the European Government - one of which is C&G 5101 Unit 1.

    There are others.
    Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Taz,

    Sorry, but I beg to differ - C&G 2079 is not required to work on vehicles. C&G 2079 is only needed to work on STATIC fridge systems.

    There are lower standard qualifications which satisfy the European Government - one of which is C&G 5101 Unit 1.

    There are others.

    Well there you go....... You learn every day..

    I knew of the 5101 but did not realise that that was enough to work alone...

    So sorry for any confusion and thanks for the heads up..

    All the best

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    That's OK - no offence.

    Just trying to inform.
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    Moris passed 2079

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    Yup Passed Dec 2009 !

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    passed c&g 2079......91% / 100

    it makes you think a little harder.......................lol

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    Re: C&g 2079

    I am taking the 2079-101 exam later this month and as i consider myself pretty experienced i thought i would have a bash at taking the exam only, however, there are some elements of the Test Specifications that i am not too familiar with such as the newer regulations / environmental stuff.
    Is there a publication which covers all of the items in the exam or is it exclusively Test Centre material?

    Just thought I could do with some 'light reading' material for my hols

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    Took it last week without doing the course. (nearly 40 years experience though). Passed, along with a slaughterman, a dough kneader, a bloke who makes things from wax, and seven eastern european, car washers. The dough kneader couldn't get out of the building because he didn't know which way to turn the doorknob. The eastern europeans have been promised the contract for the refrigeration and a/c service for a national petrol station / supermarket chain. The slaughterman was relieved to be able to change trades as qualifications for his job have become pretty tough. The wax modeller was indifferent and said that it was a choice between C&G 2079 or starting a cannabis farm. He chose 2079 because it may lead on to him being able to heat his attic more efficiently.

    I'm just happy I passed and can now look forward to the increased competition, safe in the knowledge that I'll have to reduce my prices by about 80%.

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    Re: C&g 2079

    I failed mine 4 times because I could not flare a bit of pipe
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    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    I failed mine 4 times because I could not flare a bit of pipe
    there is a you tube video demonstrating this,im gonna do 2 flares tomorrow-blindfolded-extreme or what-i will inform u of the outcome!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by install monkey View Post
    there is a you tube video demonstrating this,im gonna do 2 flares tomorrow-blindfolded-extreme or what-i will inform u of the outcome!!!
    All right show off ... I bet your one of these over skilled dudes with a 2079

    Can you do an un-blindfolded video & post it ? I really need to learn this then I may be able to work un supervised

    thanks bud
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    i will only if u promise to update the thread and prove basic knowledge in copper pipe fundamentals
    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    All right show off ... I bet your one of these over skilled dudes with a 2079

    Can you do an un-blindfolded video & post it ? I really need to learn this then I may be able to work un supervised

    thanks bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillerman2006 View Post
    I failed mine 4 times because I could not flare a bit of pipe
    Are you being serious Chillerman? I am hoping to start doing refrigeration again and am looking at booking a course? I heard it was a breeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo2212 View Post
    Are you being serious Chillerman? I am hoping to start doing refrigeration again and am looking at booking a course? I heard it was a breeze.
    I think you will find the chillerman has a sense of humour

    But if you are returning and think the qual is a breeze, think again and do some proper research and revision.

    People are failing this exam and some are so called experienced and qualified.

    You might be very good and know all the required information, which if true is good. But
    if you walk in thinking it is a breeze you may be in for a rude shock.

    All the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo2212 View Post
    Are you being serious Chillerman? I am hoping to start doing refrigeration again and am looking at booking a course? I heard it was a breeze.
    Quote Originally Posted by taz24 View Post
    I think you will find the chillerman has a sense of humour

    But if you are returning and think the qual is a breeze, think again and do some proper research and revision.

    People are failing this exam and some are so called experienced and qualified.

    You might be very good and know all the required information, which if true is good. But
    if you walk in thinking it is a breeze you may be in for a rude shock.

    All the best

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    Thanks Taz, for setting him straight

    Turbo as Taz has also said this is not a breeze, you will need to understand fundamentals & carry out practical to include charging/decanting/pressure/strength testing, brazing, refrigerant logs & new legistlation's .... it's a bit more than the old 2078 & there have been many that have needed to return + retake the test/course

    If you need a full breakdown of what you need to know/do am sure between us we could give you a more accurate breakdown

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    June 1982, 2 distinctions.

    ....seems like another life its so long ago.
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    June 1982, 2 distinctions.

    ....seems like another life its so long ago.
    I fail to see your point.

    I too have from 1982 2 Distinctions and a credit and in 1990ish a 2077, 1994ish a 2078 and 2009
    a 2079................

    Are you saying that a qualification in 1982 is all you need to prove
    you are still current and upto date with new laws and standards????

    cool runnings

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    Quote Originally Posted by cool runings View Post
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    I fail to see your point.

    I too have from 1982 2 Distinctions and a credit and in 1990ish a 2077, 1994ish a 2078 and 2009
    a 2079................

    Are you saying that a qualification in 1982 is all you need to prove
    you are still current and upto date with new laws and standards????

    cool runnings

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    Hi cool runnings,

    Absolutely not,
    I too have many other qualifications and training coarse's to my name.

    The question was about 2079 which I stated.

    In the refrigeration field if you don't adapt and keep up with new laws and technologies you sink.

    best regards
    buddy

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    ash grant of belfrygroup has passed his 2079 theory and practical not bad for a 2nd yr apprentice

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    Quote Originally Posted by install monkey View Post
    ash grant of belfrygroup has passed his 2079 theory and practical not bad for a 2nd yr apprentice
    Ah the proud daddy monkey...
    You've gotta keep turning the screws or he'll sit back and relax thinking it all gravy...
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    Re: C&g 2079

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Taz,

    Sorry, but I beg to differ - C&G 2079 is not required to work on vehicles. C&G 2079 is only needed to work on STATIC fridge systems.

    There are lower standard qualifications which satisfy the European Government - one of which is C&G 5101 Unit 1.

    There are others.
    How is the lower qualification I.e. 5101 or now 7543 a lower qualification when it's level 3 and 2079 is only level 2

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    Re: C&g 2079

    Passed mine today, I have to say though I thought the 2078 and the old CITB was harder. Apparrantly there is a new pipe work and brazing qualification in the pipeline that will be out in the next 12 months. Whether or not I'll be doing that remains to be seen. I only did the 2079 because I am getting interest from clientel with more than 6kg in their systems who are enquiring about leak testing and energy efficiency. So I thought I would have a better chance of getting the work if I had a credential and refcom membership. Otherwise I would have carried on without it!
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    I'm a little embarrassed to say I only sat it today, finally.

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    At least you didn't have far to travel
    Quote Originally Posted by RSTC View Post
    I'm a little embarrassed to say I only sat it today, finally.
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    Re: C&g 2079

    did he fail it??

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    Having not held a brazing torch in anger in a couple of decades, it was a close call. Needed lots of practice.

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    I passed mine in June 2012, was pretty easy as I remember.

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    Re: C&g 2079

    Now is the time you all started to go for the un vented hot water qualification....... then you can start stamping on the wet trades patch. They've been jumping onto the f gas qualification so they can work on Heat pumps and they see heat pumps as not just boiler replacement but also split systems and a whole new territory for heating work! Beware the Plumbers are coming....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nevgee View Post
    Now is the time you all started to go for the un vented hot water qualification....... then you can start stamping on the wet trades patch. They've been jumping onto the f gas qualification so they can work on Heat pumps and they see heat pumps as not just boiler replacement but also split systems and a whole new territory for heating work! Beware the Plumbers are coming....
    The plumbers can keep coming ,because the more them gimps fook, up the more money I make sorting out their c0ck ups.
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    How is the lower qualification I.e. 5101 or now 7543 a lower qualification when it's level 3 and 2079 is only level 2
    C&G 5101 or 7543 is only a level 3 if you do all three units.

    Unit 1 is only part of the qualification!
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