C&g 2079

[frank]

Post your name here when you have passed!

Congratulations may be in order.

[Quality]

Quality passed C & G 2079 Cat 1 - 23 Nov 2008

[fanblade]

Fanblade passed C & G 2079 Cat 1 on 27th Jan 09 thanks to Mr White @ Polar Pumps Ltd Doncaster

[trentvalley]

Passed C&G 2079, Cat 1 at Polar Training, Doncaster 29th Jan 2009. Just don't click your pen top! Thanks Pete.

[Grizzly]

May I suggest that people DO NOT
refer to where they passed.
Or else this will just degenerate into a my training school is better than yours etc.
Besides your trainer is not everyones favourite!
Despite what He may tell you!
Grizzly

[monkey spanners]

Passed F gas thingy

[frank]

Passed F gas thingy

Well done.

How was it?

[monkey spanners]

I was a bit worried about the theory test, with my being dyslexic, but it was ok. Need to know ph diagrams entropy, enthalpy etc.
Many of the people there knew how a system worked and what state refrigerant would be in in the different parts of the system but struggled with the correct technical terms, so that would be worth reading up on for some.

As seem to be the way with these types of tests some of the questions seemed to be worded in a way that makes you think they are writen by people who don't know how a refrigeration system works.....

The practical tests would be easier if i had been able to use my own tools. Simple things like different make recovery machines taps doing slightly different things, some have lp cut out some don't etc. Them using mbar and me used to micron for vacuum.
I've not used oxy propane before as we did for the brazing test. More used to oxyacc or mapp.

I think the assesors are able to tell the difference between somone working with kit that is new to them and someone who is not competent, so i don't think any of us have much to worry about.

Glad its over for five years

[Andy W]

I passed my 2079 cat 1 today, 6 of us took it, 4 passed, one lad re took it this afternoon and failed again.

I would recommend anyone to do a one day theory course first or you may struggle.

[Quality]

Well Done Andy W

[Magoo]

OK Frank, can you enlighten the rest of the world, what the hell is C & G 2009.
As an aside is everyone aware of the Copenhagen conference impending. All to do with refrigerants. carbon taxes etc.. Big brother and tree huggers are going to kill our industry.
magoo

[marc5180]

The aim of this course is to introduce, train, assess and qualify, where appropriate, candidates who need to obtain the minimum legal qualification to install, commission, service, maintain, recover and leak check all refrigeration, air conditioning and heat pump systems in accordance with the F-Gas Regulation EC842/2006. All engineers will have to obtain this qualification by 4th July 2011.

What will be gained?

Sufficient skills, knowledge and techniques to:

* Fabricate and fit mechanical and brazed joints
* Pressure test and evacuate to BSEN378
* Charge a blended refrigerant
* Analyse system performance to ensure efficiency (using pressure, temperature, refrigerant state and rule of thumb)
* Leak test to EC1516/2007
* Maintain F-Gas log books and records
* Handle refrigerant safely and dispose of legally
* All candidates will be able to ensure systems are tight, efficient in their use of energy and meet the F-Gas legal requirements

How will it be tested?

* By a comprehensive practical assessment
* A forty question on-line assessment test

[Peter_1]

I passed in September 2008.

[old gas bottle]

passed ages ago . bring on the next pile of meaningless bull****.

[frank]

OK Frank, can you enlighten the rest of the world, what the hell is C & G 2009.

Ooooppppps....

Fixed now

[hoorain]

hi im new to RE and have no practical experience but since i have read most of the theory my personal opinion is that you can only perform a few tasks that dont need much of theory but to be a competent tech. and to solve certain problems you cant do without theory unless one performs as half tech. and half cowboy sorry for me bieng so blunt but i think many a competent techs.would agree to what i just suggested

[paul thompson]

how could you pass 2079 in sept 08. it wasn,t introduced until dec 08

[bryanbeech]

i passed a few weeks ago, I lernt a few things along the way.
Good luck to all
Ps i would def recomend theory training...

[Voyager]

how could you pass 2079 in sept 08. it wasn,t introduced until dec 08

Peter_1 is in Belgium.

Must mean the equivalent to C&G 2079.

[Peter_1]

First candidates already passed in May or June 2008.
I gave the first Belgium preparation courses. I insisted that all the candidates in this first session where selected amongst the best technicians they could find.
We then could fine-tune what we had prepared.
The preparation of all this started in 2007, so this isn't all that new anymore for me.
I also made the test rigs for the biggest Belgium exam center where I'm an assessor for the moment.
We have a meeting next month in Brussels how we will arrange the exams for Cat II, Cat III and Cat IV.
Anyone info how all this is arranged in the other countries?

[andyc425]

i passed too where tog o from here?

[acnerd]

I passed 2 weeks ago. It was the first proper F-gas course where they checked my practical ability in detail. These others I've been on in the past were almost a waste of time.

I thought the explanation of the Ph graphs were great.

Brazing with oxy-propane was "interesting"

The tutor explained that all engineers that work with refrigerants are meant to be certified by Feb 2011. He estimates there are 40 000 engineers in the UK, and that the institutions who offer the course could, in total, get through 4000 engineers a year. Do the maths!!!

[nick uk]

i passed 26/8/2009 just recieved certificates

[nevgee]

I cleared the hurdles today ...
It was a good reality check... If you know your stuff then it should be a breeze

[jasperreefers]

Passed today North west Kent Collage J&E Hall. Highly recomended. I would suggest doing some theory study before hand. They seem to hammer the indirect method of leak testing and kept going on about Mollier charts,but as it happend only had one question on the charts

[Testech]

What was the cost please ? - I know the Halls Centre quite well, and am interested in getting the 2079 shortly.

[Testech]

Has anybody got any suggestions on getting the course notes or training notes for C&G 2079 please ?

[Langer]

Passed today. :-)

[Brian_UK]

Has anybody got any suggestions on getting the course notes or training notes for C&G 2079 please ?

Go on the course, you get the notes then.

Seriously though, there wasn't anything surprising in the course notes that I used so starting a course without them beforehand shouldn't disadvatnage you at all.

We had a couple of guys who had very little practical experience but they understood and learned without great difficulty.

[Brian_UK]

Well, that's it, finally taken the exam for the CITB course.

Glad to say that I passed, so another five years of allowable working.

[Pooh]

I passed a while back and found some of the questions a bit weird. You all may be happy to know I have just gone through all the questions and hopefully made them make sense.

Well I can only hope.

Regards
Pooh

[richelli]

Passed today!

[frank]

Well done Richelli

[jasperreefers]

What was the cost please ? - I know the Halls Centre quite well, and am interested in getting the 2079 shortly.

850+vat, for 4 and a half days I know it is cheaper but having my depot in Gravesend it was the best choice. it is Gravesend Collage now not at halls old place in Dartford

[coolhibby1875]

you can find a pdf form on the city and guilds website, From there you can fully download all you need to pass as well as some of the question and answers. This will save you having to go on a 3 or 4 day course, Simply study the document then sit the test.

[coolhibby1875]

sat test today, Passed with score of 78%

[fowlie]

passed today not as hard as i was expecting.give it four to five years and they will have another type of course for us to do

[frank]

Well done Fowlie and Coolhibby

[harold1965]

you can find a pdf form on the city and guilds website, From there you can fully download all you need to pass as well as some of the question and answers. This will save you having to go on a 3 or 4 day course, Simply study the document then sit the test.

Hi,
Could anyone please direct me to this link-- If anyone is able to comment on any good training providers, I'd certainly appreciate it.
Thanks

[coolhibby1875]

hi harold if you type city and guilds 2079 into google it will direct you right to it

[harold1965]

Thanks for this- Have found it.There was one document i could not download as asked for a password but have got the other stuff.

I am now trying to decide where to study for this- need a reputable outfit that will explain the practical aspect & theory in a professional manner.

I do appreciate that names cannot be mentioned so if you guys do have any recommnedations please feel free to use the private message system on this forum

[landylout]

Hi Guys,

Just passed the 2079 on friday in Aberdeen,pheew.

I work offshore as an Engineer onboard a oil producing ship ,so we are required to look after the fridges and A/C units .This course was really good for us guys .

Craig

[Latte]

Yeah done it today, passed OK

Still not sure what all this empathy chart stuff is but know enough to know what part of the cycle was where and where all the 4 components are. Can i forget it all now :-)

[paul thompson]

The aim of this course is to introduce, train, assess and qualify, where appropriate, candidates who need to obtain the minimum legal qualification to install, commission, service, maintain, recover and leak check all refrigeration, air conditioning and heat pump systems in accordance with the F-Gas Regulation EC842/2006. All engineers will have to obtain this qualification by 4th July 2011.

What will be gained?

Sufficient skills, knowledge and techniques to:

* Fabricate and fit mechanical and brazed joints
* Pressure test and evacuate to BSEN378
* Charge a blended refrigerant
* Analyse system performance to ensure efficiency (using pressure, temperature, refrigerant state and rule of thumb)
* Leak test to EC1516/2007
* Maintain F-Gas log books and records
* Handle refrigerant safely and dispose of legally
* All candidates will be able to ensure systems are tight, efficient in their use of energy and meet the F-Gas legal requirements

How will it be tested?

* By a comprehensive practical assessment
* A forty question on-line assessment test

SIMPLES AS THE MEER CAT SAYS

[freezetech]

passed mine yesterday real good course tutor was brilliant

reddragon air con

[coolincab]

passed ok 73%
Surpriseing thing was it wasent some failed engineer with the gift of the gab that did the practial part. He knew the job
Did it with a refrigeration firm in Aberdeen
Cant wait for the next 1
not

[Andy AC]

Didn't do the 2079 - did the J11, the other one, passed yesterday.

Andy

[paul thompson]

Didn't do the 2079 - did the J11, the other one, passed yesterday.

Andy

is that the citb one that has to be re-taken/ up dated every 5 years ?????

[monkey spanners]

is that the citb one that has to be re-taken/ up dated every 5 years ?????

I think they both need re taking every five years now

[1torr]

Passed last week.