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    Is anyone busy???



    as the title says is anyone busy service wise? our install lads are but me being the sole service chap is quite,and as there on large projects iam getting a few weeks at the end of them to run them up,Ive done more PPM's in the last few months than i did last last year!!!!

    everyone i speak to round my way (middlands) is quite too

    anybody want there van washing? i have my own bucket and sponge


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    I`m not that busy.All i`ve done this week is leak test,fixed a couple of water leaks and had my van serviced and repaired again.I got home at 2 today but dont tell anyone.

    I blame the blazing hot summer we were supposed to have.We prepared all winter and got everything cleaned and fully operational and we dont have the heat.Nice.

    Its just started raining now.
    If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.


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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by Chunk View Post
    I`m not that busy.All i`ve done this week is leak test,fixed a couple of water leaks and had my van serviced and repaired again.I got home at 2 today but dont tell anyone.

    I blame the blazing hot summer we were supposed to have.We prepared all winter and got everything cleaned and fully operational and we dont have the heat.Nice.

    Its just started raining now.
    same here,had a gas leak last week other than that just doing my hours on PPM's and going home

    my van has never been so clean and the lawn!!! well its just earth ive cut it that often
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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Paul and Chunk.
    You are not alone,
    Thankfully as I work for a large company it's less scary but it's still worrying. None the less!
    Cheers Grizzly

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Get yer asses across to NZ. Winter here but we are inundated. Mostly service calls from old people that dont understand heat pumps go on defrost so turn them off when they do!

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    sounds like you guys need a job in the supermarkets no time in these places to wash your vans and cut lawns.there is way to much competition out there to work for yourself or some small firm.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by coolhibby1875 View Post
    sounds like you guys need a job in the supermarkets no time in these places to wash your vans and cut lawns.there is way to much competition out there to work for yourself or some small firm.
    I do work with supermarkets,but down this way nearly all companies are quiet at the moment.I cant remember the last time it was like this.
    If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.


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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Hi All
    We do fridge & Ac so at the mo we are ok.
    Had our record year last year and the best 3 months for the start of 2008/09.
    I think the guys who just do fridge or ac are going to struggle these coming months especially ac install guys.
    No doubt it will effect us in the near future, just gonna keep paddling the canoe and see what happens.

    Good look

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    It's deathly quiet here too... Not just ac work but gas work too. Every tradesman I speak to has noticed a major fall off in work... Sparks, chippies, gas men.. Everyone. There are a lot of guys in trouble already..

    Assume the crash position folks!!!!!
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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Any one wants to help me?

    Not a dull moment, loads of work, don't know what you are talking about,

    On my waiting list there are : 4 cold storage rooms, 2 16000 L milk tanks to install [ 6 condensing units], 2 40 HP compressors to replace and all the usual every day repairing jobs.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    If we had the same climate here chemi cool as you have over there everyone would be busy here too.

    Here in the uk we just get a mish mash of a climate all year round.
    Anyone seen the sun lately?

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Don't blame it on the weather.....

    Africa is hotter but I don't think there is much refrigeration work there.

    The system here is different,

    Big supermarket chains work with contractors and so is most of the factories.

    there are no big maintenance companies and most of the market is owned by small businesses such as myself.

    The point is how you build your portfolio of clients, how you look after them, when to get rid of nonprofitable client.

    I'm sure thats the amounts of work in the UK is at least 10 times more then here regardless the weather.

    Your system is different.

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    GENTS Get up to Scotland!!!!.
    To much work and not enough service guys up here,
    Any one want a job?!

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by stuartwking View Post
    GENTS Get up to Scotland!!!!.
    To much work and not enough service guys up here,
    Any one want a job?!
    In Aberdeen????

    You've got to be kiddin'

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    And what is wrong with it!!
    The weather is great up here! lol

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by stuartwking View Post
    And what is wrong with it!!
    The weather is great up here! lol
    LOL great weather in Scotland is just above freezing point
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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    SCOTLAND is crazy just now. Fosters keep us busy. 900 maintenances to do lol any1 want a job??

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by superswill View Post
    as the title says is anyone busy service wise?
    Flat out - Want A Job

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdocwra View Post
    Flat out - Want A Job

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    hey if it doesnt pick up soon i will come and carry your tool box no probs
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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Very busy at the moment but can see there being a downturn in workload very soon.So as usual will have to keep the pencil sharp. I lost a job last week for almost exactly 20% and I am very reasonable but believe the other Contractor was quiet so took at loss to keep men employed.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by yinmorrison View Post
    Very busy at the moment but can see there being a downturn in workload very soon.So as usual will have to keep the pencil sharp. I lost a job last week for almost exactly 20% and I am very reasonable but believe the other Contractor was quiet so took at loss to keep men employed.

    the last company i worked for did the same. think in the end they lost £30.000 but like you said to keep there man employed.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    anyone want a new service chap then iam bored!!!!!!
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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    I think i jinxed myself when i posted i wasnt busy.Since then its been totally manic and i even had to work over the weekend when i wasnt supposed to.

    Blocked drains and gas leaks and a/c units.I`d carry anyones toolbox so i didnt have to get my hoover out for the 100th time this week.

    And if i get another call for an a/c unit not working properly i am gonna nut someone.Why do we leave manuals with these people if they dont read them?
    If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.


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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Very busy on industrial fridge, far too much service work, not enough guys, anyone want a job?

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    Not much for me to do. Had to cut a few ads due to costs, now I'm only running one (the cheapest local paper), and only advertising in the a/c section, not the refrig section as well even though I'd like to do both.
    I'm only getting 3 hrs or so a day on a good day, today only had 1 job and it was cancelled.
    So today I repaired my digital thermometer, just got it going then and saved myself $120.
    Also tried to find a lower temp bimetal switch as my coffee machine burns my coffee (tried to mount it better with thermal paste but no change )
    My neighbour gave me his working 38yo frigidaire fridge. I'm going to use it for home brew temp control. Might respray the fridge too. He busted the hinges off before he knew I wanted it, so I had to make new hinge pins up with 1/2" tubing.
    So that's all I did today due to the cancelled job.

    I've got three jobs tomorrow, and still waiting on fuji parts for another $500 job I hope to do on friday.
    But it's quiet enough for me to not bother working at all 2 days during the week, I'd rather lump them all on 3 days and save running around using fuel.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    there cant be anyone working in the supermarket enviroment quiet just now everyone i speak to just now is flat out

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Hello Plank, where are you based?

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Not alot on over here with my company me and my engineer are averageing on two service calls a day was working in a vivo petrol filling station on friday there , a novum chest freezer was down had a look at it the clixon had stopped the compressor due to the condensor fan being down and that was about the height of it for that day .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1torr View Post
    Hello Plank, where are you based?
    Kent/London tho i work from Norwich down to Brighton

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    were flat out and a bit more cant keep up with service calls last friday i had 47 calls outstanding clocked up another 90hour week keeps the wife happy just.even my apprentice has jacked it cant handle the hours,just need more men

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Quote Originally Posted by fowlie View Post
    just need more men
    or to up your rates never did understand a busy fool

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    our rates are better or just as good as everyone elses its just that their isnt the engineers all companies i know are in the same boat where do you stop with the money you pay people.its just down to the industry not training over the years.

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    i agree there is just not enough young aprentices coming through with companys that do supermarkets and all aprentices that do there time with companys that dont do supermarkets dont have a clue when thrown in front of a pack especialy in sainsburys at 3 in the morning with 200 foot of chiller sitting at 20 degrees c

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    Two laid off on Friday. One girl in the office and an improver.. Looks like this wet miserable August has killed the trade..According to the boss winter is looking bleak and no one is safe..

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    hi foolboy,
    my wife going to NZ to study Horticulture, i need advice on NZ A/C and Refrigeration industry.

    Any chance ? best regards.
    phamilton@aol.com

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    Question Re: Is anyone busy???

    No not me!!
    Does anyone need any help ?
    South east England , a/c intalls service work ?

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    Just ticking over up in cumbria.
    But ppl keep leaving.
    So looking for service engineer

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    i work on commercial fridge our company has over 600 outstanding jobs that are having to sub contracted out at a loss to us, £155 arrival fee, those subbies must be loaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by fridgemandan View Post
    i work on commercial fridge our company has over 600 outstanding jobs that are having to sub contracted out at a loss to us, £155 arrival fee, those subbies must be loaded
    Why not just politely decline the jobs insted of losing money?
    If they are contract customers, why take on the contracts if you do not have the man power to fullfill your obligations?

    Again i return to my busy fools theory.

    Fridgemandan, start looking for another job now, your company is next....!

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    hello plank...do You mind to pm me your details still thinking about getting in to industrial...

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    Question Re: Is anyone busy???-Pupil enquiry to ponder

    Hi Guys
    Not an engineer but a scientist-Heres something to think about. A pupil asked me if you can cover the ugly back of your fridge freezer. I answered no as it needs an air flow, but how much air does it need around it?

    Does it need certain temps to operate or can it be safely covered?

    Many thanks, a gold star to any answers from 7D.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    Well I don't know why you picked this thread to post your question. I guess you thought idle refrig techs could be found here
    The cooler the condenser in a domestic fridge/freezer the better. What the ambient can't cool, the refrigerant has to expend energy in cooling. EG 40C liquid going into a -30C evaporator means a certain percentage of the cooling capacity is lost, because some of the refrigerant just boils off to cool the refrigerant, not the evap or the product stored.

    Manufacturers are cheapskates, they don't give you any more condenser (ugly bit at the back) than they can get away with using ideal conditions, a blocked or dirty condenser is going to run the fridge/freezer less efficiently as you are wasting work that the refrigerant could use to cool the fridge/freezer down.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    were busy but not over,about how i like it nowdays.

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    I'm very busy at the moment have been for last 5 months or so been trying to find more staff but that impossible, still booking jobs 3 weeks ahead just cant keep up..

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    Anyone need a hand ? got awful lot of experience..

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    Re: Is anyone busy???


    Immigration minister Phil Woolas proposes migrant limit

    The new immigration minister has suggested that the Government may introduce a cap on the number of migrants coming to Britain.




    Is this the answer?


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    naaaaah !! dont think so, the a/c side of the industry has boomed over the last 5 years or so and the bust will be inevitable the same as the rest of the job,seemed to be alot of people working in the trade asswell that came into it for the goldrush,

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

    we are almost 12 months behind in maintenance visits and now boss has taken on all ac and chillers in a local hospital over 300 pieces of kit we need another maintenance engineer and quick

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    Re: Is anyone busy???

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    Is this an answer to my question Sir ? If yes ,then you know nothing about me.

    I came here a feww years ago my friend and i am not polish.Second i manage to survive somehow which require skills ,being employee is like always lazing around and asking the boss to increase the wages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUBCONTRACTOR View Post
    Is this an answer to my question Sir ? If yes ,then you know nothing about me.

    I came here 10 years ago my friend and i am not polish.Second i manage to survive somehow which require skills ,being employee is like always lazing around and asking the boss to increase the wages.
    Firstly it wasn't my answer it was a govenment ministers answer. Secondly it was for 'migrants coming to Uk' not exisiting migrants. Thirdly your 'employee' remark is very insulting to those who work very hard in their job

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