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11-06-2008, 05:23 AM #1
a question
Hi dear sir
Two container linked with pipe and all system are sealed. If the T2>T1,the media is water or others, how about the heat transfer? the heat can flow from T2 to T1 side? pls advise. thx!
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regards
LC
I hear...I forget;I see...I remember;I do...I understand
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11-06-2008, 11:27 PM #2
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Assuming that the pipe connections are on the top and at the bottom of the containers then convection current will move the fluid from T2 into T1 until the temperature equalizes when movement will stop.
Brian - Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
Retired March 2015
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12-06-2008, 06:11 AM #3
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Elevate the hotter tank by about 2 feet and you have a thermosiphon similar to a gravity solar water heater
it would require external heat added to the upper tank to keep it goingTake the V out of HVAC and you are left with a HAC job
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12-06-2008, 06:16 AM #4
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LCShi, I agree with Brian.
This principle was used by Mitsubishi Electric in AC's they specially made for telecom switching cabines like we see many times along highways.
They sometimes publish new things in a newspaper and this article was in one of them some years ago.
It is something they mass produce already but it isn't available here...yet.
Just like their small CO2 heat pumps.Last edited by Peter_1; 12-06-2008 at 09:27 PM.
It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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12-06-2008, 12:55 PM #5
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The heat will flow but will take a loooooooooong time.
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13-06-2008, 12:41 AM #6
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Ya,Chemi ,
But what to do to make it quick? This is the question!
regards
LCI hear...I forget;I see...I remember;I do...I understand
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13-06-2008, 04:16 AM #7
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A pump.......
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13-06-2008, 08:31 AM #8
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abosolutely right.
Maybe the heat pipe can meet this purpose. Without phase change,the pump is necessary. who knows something about heat pipe? I need a teacherI hear...I forget;I see...I remember;I do...I understand
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13-06-2008, 01:04 PM #9
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Read and learn.....
http://www.cheresources.com/htpipes.shtml
I will test you later..............
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13-06-2008, 04:00 PM #10
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Yes, if there is no work or heat exchanged to the surroundings the second law of thermodynamics states that energy will flow from container at T2 to T1 and not the other way until a state of equilibrium is reached (lower T2 higher T1). This is independent of the fluid.
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14-06-2008, 08:18 PM #11
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Heat pipes are used also in return ducts http://ee.emsd.gov.hk/english/air/ai..._tech_air.html
Heatpipes are widely used here on roofs to heat domestic waterIt's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
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