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    Fifth Component - article



    Though all know this!!!!
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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Quote Originally Posted by smpsmp45 View Post
    Though all know this!!!!
    It seems that someone has forgotten six component. The refrigerant!

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    I have been saying this for years. Piping is one of the most overlooked components used. A lot of people seem very concerned about the efficiency or performance of a component, then turn around and mess it up by:

    a) improperly installing the piping, or
    b) not selecting the proper pipe diameter

    If the piping is not correct, then nothing else works the way it should.

    Thanks for the article, I did not realize Ron had written an article on this. Where did you find this?
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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    It is really very good.

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    I have been saying that for years just not as well as that artical.

    Ice man it is sure nice to see another Friggy so concerned with piping. It is so important it should be the 1st Element.

    I have just found that ammonnia likes pretty piping jobs as much as I do. I hope our construction department likes this artical enough that I am not fixing Piping issues again this year.

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Piping is one of those subjects that a lot of people think it is just running the pipe from point A to point B.

    There are enough details with piping systems to occupy as much time talking about piping as selecting the main system components. More often than not, when a system does not work one of the main culprits is the piping system.

    Then after we get done beating piping systems to death, we can start on the insulation systems. That is a whole can of worms unto itself!
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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Dear US ICeman,

    I was looking for the RED Book of International Institute of Ammonia & there this article was placed.

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    smpsmp45,

    What is the RED Book of International Institute of Ammonia?
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    Dear US Iceman,

    It is book by Institute - the best seller of that institute on principales of freezing, quick freezing, storage & thawing of food etc.

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    Hi smpsmp45,

    Are you talking about IIAR or IIR? You mentioned the name as "International Institute of Ammonia", which leads to my confusion.

    Can you provide a link to a site so I may review this book?

    Thanks very much.
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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi, Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by US Iceman View Post
    Hi smpsmp45,

    Are you talking about IIAR or IIR? You mentioned the name as "International Institute of Ammonia", which leads to my confusion.

    Can you provide a link to a site so I may review this book?

    Thanks very much.

    made some research for myself but came only to here

    http://www.process-cooling.com/CDA/A...00f932a8c0____

    and then ....here http://www.process-cooling.com/register

    hope of some help anyhow

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi Josip,

    Thanks for the links. I am continuing to look for mention of a Red Book.

    Are you having a good winter?
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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi, Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by US Iceman View Post
    Hi Josip,

    Are you having a good winter?
    ....kind of nice winter, clear and 8*C now...too warm winter...

    try this link...

    http://www.trj-inc.com/links.html

    and red book (about marketing) is here....http://www.rbcs.com/

    but another, good one, about safety regarding ammonia is here....with quiz

    http://www.epa.gov/region7/toxics/ac...rigeration.pdf

    Best regards, Josip
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    It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious...

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    Please, don't teach me how to be stupid....
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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Dear Us ICe man

    I am out of office & hence unable to give you the link. May be today I shall be back & I shall send you that link

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi Josip,

    It appears you are back home. Thank you for the links provided.

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi, Samarjit Sen

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarjit Sen View Post
    Hi Josip,

    It appears you are back home. Thank you for the links provided.
    Yes, for the moment, waiting for new assignement , hope not too long...


    Best regards, Josip

    It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious...

    Don't ever underestimate the power of stupid people when they are in large groups.

    Please, don't teach me how to be stupid....
    No job is as important as to jeopardize the safety of you or those that you work with.

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    DEAR US ICEMAN,

    The link is http://www.iifiir.com

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hello smpsmp45,

    Please recheck the link of the website.

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi, all

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarjit Sen View Post
    Hello smpsmp45,

    Please recheck the link of the website.
    .....this one is the same and hope it is good...

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=re...8R7WGqmZFFyPRw


    and additional links from the same page.......Industry Links - Training and Education

    http://www.achrnews.com/CDA/Industry...and_Education/


    Best regards, Josip

    It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious...

    Don't ever underestimate the power of stupid people when they are in large groups.

    Please, don't teach me how to be stupid....
    No job is as important as to jeopardize the safety of you or those that you work with.

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Quote Originally Posted by Josip View Post
    Hi, all



    .....this one is the same and hope it is good...

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=re...8R7WGqmZFFyPRw


    and additional links from the same page.......Industry Links - Training and Education

    http://www.achrnews.com/CDA/Industry...and_Education/


    Best regards, Josip
    First link doesn't worked for me, at first, but I managed to find one:
    http://tinyurl.com/2f3y8e

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    Re: Fifth Component - article

    Hi, nike123

    Quote Originally Posted by nike123 View Post
    First link doesn't worked for me, at first, but I managed to find one:
    http://tinyurl.com/2f3y8e
    ....sorry, seems I did something wrong cannot post a link to original document...

    please try this one (same page-home) and then search...
    http://www.achrnews.com/

    your link is good, thanks...

    Best regards, Josip

    It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious...

    Don't ever underestimate the power of stupid people when they are in large groups.

    Please, don't teach me how to be stupid....
    No job is as important as to jeopardize the safety of you or those that you work with.

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