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Thread: Denco unit L.P trip
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24-01-2008, 12:58 PM #1
Denco unit L.P trip
Hi guys, working on a denco under floor aircon, unit is tripping on L.P, which would suggest low refrigerant, put guages on without comp running, both low and high side balanced out at 100psi, activated contactor manualy and suc went below Opsi diss also down to zero, removed any refrigerant left in system and charged with 7bar O.F.N, leak checked every joint and nut on system no leaks found while unit is in this poorly condition am going to change drier and clean out filter on t.e.v, any other suggestions would be welcome. thanks.
P.S system has had nitro in for about hour and a half and guages show no loss at all...
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24-01-2008, 01:25 PM #2
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
A few things, it's hard to get data when the post is written like a story, you need paragraphs and line breaks when you are stating observed pressures and temperatures.
Sorry if I'm wrong but from what I could understand you said HP went from a static 100 PSI, down to zero when you ran the system?
Systems only short of refrigerant don't have the HP going down when you start the system, let alone going all the way down to 0psi
Also 700kpa isn't much to leak test with, I always leak test with the same presuure that the HP could be in normal running conditions. I've found heaps of leaks that others couldn't using that method and a bit of soapy water.
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24-01-2008, 01:45 PM #3
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
I'll keep my story telling for my daughter next time then, would have thought 7bar was adequate press, will boost it up some more and re-chack..Cheers.
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24-01-2008, 01:52 PM #4
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Re: Denco unit L.P trip
That just shows you that you have refrigerant in system.
activated contactor manualy and suc went below Opsi diss also down to zero,
removed any refrigerant left in system
and charged with 7bar O.F.N, leak checked every joint and nut on system no leaks found while unit is in this poorly condition am going to change drier and clean out filter on t.e.v, any other suggestions would be welcome. thanks.
P.S system has had nitro in for about hour and a half and guages show no loss at all...
Then you should record temperature of surrounding and after 6h check pressure in system.
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24-01-2008, 02:43 PM #5
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
I assume that the system is operating on R22.
Increase your OFN pressure to 375psig (25bar) and leave it on test for 24 hours, then check your gauges for any pressure drop.
Sometimes when you can't find a leak under OFN pressure test , it could have been the schraeder cap that was leaking but now doesn't show up as your gauge line is making a good seal.
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24-01-2008, 04:20 PM #6
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
Thanks for all replies, paulh and frank, increased ofn to 25b found pin prick leak on cappilary line going into pressure control valve which was behind L.P/H.P switch, Happy Day's
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24-01-2008, 08:18 PM #7
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
Might also suggest that your HP reading was perhaps downstream of a solenoid valve which didn't open when you manually pushed the contactor in.
Brian - Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
Retired March 2015
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25-01-2008, 09:48 AM #8
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
As Brian says most Denco downflow units I`ve seen have a liquid solenoid and remote condenser. I am still concerned how you managed to pull a vac at suction and discharge . Did you measure at the service valves on the rotalocks. You may have more than a leak to worry about
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25-01-2008, 07:24 PM #9
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
Simply put, if you just pushed the contactor in, then the solanoid wouldn't have been energized, if your HP guage was connected down stream of the solanoid then your basically reading the same pressure as your LP side.
Pressure test.
Repair leak.
re pressure test.
Vac.
Recharge and run under on demand of controls.
Chris.
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09-04-2010, 10:23 PM #10
Re: Denco unit L.P trip
I can concur if you just "push" the contactor in the liquid line sol valve will not be energized.
Very confused re the high side?? did you have the gauges on the same side of the system?
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