Re: Fridgie's van explodes
Interesting results have arisen that there will only be a refund on full unopened cylinders with cap on, where it would only be fair that a full refund be given on all mapp gas bottles regardless of how full they are. Also some of us have relied on this new oxy mapp gas for welding (and like me have done away with the big bottles). These two prior points make some of us reluctant to hand in our mapp gas bottles. What is the verdict - was it really a leaky acetylene, mapp or what?
Re: Fridgie's van explodes
Hi Tesla
I think both WorkSafe Victoria and NT WorkSafe are still investigating. I check their website regularly for a report but nothing as yet.
Most likely will take several months to come to a conclusion, after all we are talking about government departments.
We have instructed all our guys not to leave regulators connected and supplied them with plugs for the acet bottles, also check their Mapp gas torches and make sure they are secure and not rolling around in the back of the van.
Paul
Re: Fridgie's van explodes
Hi PaulZ
All Mapp gas in our company has been ordered to go back a whlie ago and it sounds like the suppliers will not have any stock untill possibly Feburary. I should imagine those horrible utes with the steel back side containers are looking more attractive for safety reasons.
Re: Fridgie's van explodes
Not a single word from any of our wholesalers here. Business as usual.
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Have just spoken to a wholesaler here - they are expecting a press release, likely with a world-wide recall of these cylinders within the next week or so.
Re: Fridgie's van explodes
I returned partly used Mapp gas bottles to heatcraft and got a replacement for each,
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Hi AGSelec
Actrol's will not give a refund on partly used bottels which I think is not fair.
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We got a recal letter 15 / 2 / 12 on all Worthington Mapp Gas cylinders from our suplier. Not bad only a couple of months behind the rest of the world !!!
RIP. to both engieers
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The two in the space of 4 days were definately both fridgies, and accetylene the cause. There was also another incident in Melbourne just over 2yrs ago involving a plumbers van. The central locking remote set the explosion off.
http://youtu.be/qowfzBCmHsY
Fortunately he was far enough away from the van when it exploded and was uninjured
The guy at BOC told me the other day it was $40000 fine if caught carrying accetylene without it being vented through the floor
Re: Fridgie's van explodes
Hi MacFrosty
Was it definitely Acetylene or something else, Mapp Gas maybe.
There has been nothing on the WorkSafe Victoria website or the NT WorkSafe website about either of the incidents. They will be doing the investigation and normally they post the findings on their website.
if you know anything please let us know.
Regards
Paul
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Hi all.
out of left feild, but why doesn't some one come up with a screw in plug for acetylene bottles and a screw on cap for Mapp bottles. Similar to ammonia bottles, caps are supplied on a swivel chain attachment. Rather than legislating a fine system. Next we will see bottles straped on ladder racks to keep them ventilated.
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The guy at BOC told me the other day it was $40000 fine if caught carrying accetylene without it being vented through the floor[/QUOTE]
Is that for the Fridgie or the company he/she works for? With no mapp gas & not allowed to store gas of any sort in plant rooms on site... Today I left all the gas stuff in the cool room. Do we or should we have vents for any of the other gasses we use?
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G'day Tesla. Someone told me years ago that R134a was explosive in the right conditions. So many parts per million, and at a certain temperature, in a closed space. Haven't seen anything more on this.
Re: Fridgie's van explodes
Hi Magoo
We got our own plugs made for the acetylene bottles, they have a chain and a clip that can be attached to the valve guard.
They are made from the regulator nut with a solid stem similar to that on a regulator.
We contacted both BOC and Air Liquide but both didn't have much.
Paul