The policing of F-gas (UK)
After some discussions on here a few months ago I reported a certain website to DEFRA and yesterday I got a reply, they are taking action and ask me not to publish any details about the case as it might go to court. (So those of you who know what dealer I am talking about, please do not mention it)
For future reference, below is the details of whom to contact with concerns about cowboys breaking the Fgas legislation...
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It was good of you to draw to our attention the information on the XXXXX website with regard to compliance with the F Gas Regulations.
Any further concerns about non-compliance with the F Gas Regulationsshould be reported to the Environment Agency or the local authority.
The person to contact in the Environment Agency regarding compliancewith the F Gas Regulations is:
Christopher Summers
Chemical Compliance Team
Waste & Industry Regulatory Service
Environment Agency
Quadrant 2
99 Parkway Avenue
Sheffield
S9 4WF
Email:
chris.summers@environment-agency.gov.uk
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
no doubt they'll get a slap on the wrist- maybe have to reword their website !;)
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f-gas dont exist really & certainly not in one part of the industry in particular which just happen to be the biggest user
problem being if you meet the regs you dont meet these huge customers max down time
you loose the contract and someone else who will bend the regs and meet there max down time gets it
in the industry I refer to, its not the engineers but the customer forcing non compliance
after all the engineers have bills to pay and mouths to feed
and there is no f-gas police on the beat
individuals would need to be video-ed and this past on to defra to see action
and no matter how much you/we dissaprove of this would you see a fellow colleague
sacked/fined and risk jail when they have no choice
until all contractors in this industry stand shoulder to shoulder against the customer
no regs will be met
R's chillerman
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
what happened to the dude who bubbled himself to the papers because he wanted a reclaim rig-and his boss told him to blow it off- it was at a petrol station in leeds area - bout 14yr ago?? :o
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Originally Posted by
chillerman2006
f-gas dont exist really & certainly not in one part of the industry in particular which just happen to be the biggest user
problem being if you meet the regs you dont meet these huge customers max down time
you loose the contract and someone else who will bend the regs and meet there max down time gets it
in the industry I refer to, its not the engineers but the customer forcing non compliance
after all the engineers have bills to pay and mouths to feed
and there is no f-gas police on the beat
individuals would need to be video-ed and this past on to defra to see action
and no matter how much you/we dissaprove of this would you see a fellow colleague
sacked/fined and risk jail when they have no choice
until all contractors in this industry stand shoulder to shoulder against the customer
no regs will be met
R's chillerman
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
Fully agree Mr C.
The above relates to advice given by a seller of splits to homeowners/endusers, telling them to vent refrigerants... (not to mention ripping them off big time)
But I thought the contact details could be handy to have for us all.
:cool:
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Originally Posted by
install monkey
what happened to the dude who bubbled himself to the papers because he wanted a reclaim rig-and his boss told him to blow it off- it was at a petrol station in leeds area - bout 14yr ago?? :o
Dunno Install ... but would certainly be interested in who if anyone was reprimanded
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The Viking
Fully agree Mr C.
The above relates to advice given by a seller of splits to homeowners/endusers, telling them to vent refrigerants... (not to mention ripping them off big time)
But I thought the contact details could be handy to have for us all.
:cool:
argh I see
vaguely remember this being mentioned somewhere before
and yes deffo handy to have direct contact details
R's chillerman
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
http://blog.jerrykelly.com/2012/06/r...p-prevent.html http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1094953 heres a concern for the f gas police- anything that happens across the pond will get copied here!!:rolleyes:
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
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install monkey
have a site that has numerous loss's and leak not found
can imagine what we were thinking
but this puts a different angle on it
nice one Install
R's chillerman
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
Regarding the petrol station incident in Leeds I seem to remember the company was taken to court and fined.
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It is already common over here I'm afraid.
We have numerous reports of gas leaks only to find with investigation
and the use of cctv cameras that certain people use the refrigerant in
the systems and return to the scene of the crime to get another fix
Regards
Rob
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Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
The stealing of Ammonia refrigerant is a common occurrence across the pond for drug production.
Seems a very feeble attempt to get "High" if they sniffing refrigerants! (Go buy a can of aerosol cream kids, at least its nitrous oxide you are ruining your bodies with!)
Policing F-Gas is non existent in the UK and it is possible to buy refrigerant from Online sellers,Halfords, City Electrical (Yes Sparkys are slapping in A/C units) etc and Refrigerant Wholesalers without a F-Gas check.
It actually may be a blessing in disguise when media get hold of the drug aspect and it gets forced to be policed and controlled. Don't rely on the current system as it is broken and there is no money to fix it!
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Rob White
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It is already common over here I'm afraid.
We have numerous reports of gas leaks only to find with investigation
and the use of cctv cameras that certain people use the refrigerant in
the systems and return to the scene of the crime to get another fix
Regards
Rob
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I've tried R22 but IAH plastic pipe cenent is far nicer and a real pick me up when up heads up in a false ceiling running drain.. :confused:
Re: The policing of F-gas (UK)
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Gibbo
Regarding the petrol station incident in Leeds I seem to remember the company was taken to court and fined.
I had heard that a company based in Bradford were fined around £4000.00 for venting. Apparrently there were someone sat in a car in a carpark watching them re gassing on a few seperate occasions, I don't know if they were grassed and they were being watched. Or the person in the car was an official from the environmental health in the right place at the right time and maybe investigating a different complaint and ended up with a bonus?
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Always a bit concerned when venting off OFN after pressure testing, that some bright spark is going to claim that it must be refrigerant as it is coming from the A/C system. Oh what fun we have trying to earn a crust.
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Originally Posted by
r.bartlett
I've tried R22 but IAH plastic pipe cenent is far nicer and a real pick me up when up heads up in a false ceiling running drain.. :confused:
Nice one :D or not as the case may be :eek:
Regards
Rob
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Nice sig Rob.
Paste into here for a translation.
