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TONTO- haha
So, Lokaro1, are you Don? Might as well ask directly:D
No I am not Don - nor am I Boxer - just a director of a company with 27 years experience - and the moderator Frank can't even be bothered to reply. I think I will address the site with the Institute of Refrigeration
Frank might be out working like the rest of us (or sipping Harvest Pale, as he is wont to do) and it is up to him if he replies.
To some on here, it looked a bit suspect and that is all.
I think the point being make, Boxer/Dan Van Vleit/Lokaro1, is that you should at least highlight your vested interest and the common I/P address, too, when posting on these boards, particularly on this subject which is practically an advert for ali. It did look like (still does) like one of you pitched the OP just so that the other two could come in later with all the positive spin that would possibly sway us all over to this wonder metal, aluminium.
We don't like being manipulated like that. Had far too much of this from Blair/Brown/Cameron/Murdoch, so are quick to spot it. Shame to spin an important thread like this one in that way. At least we know more about your position on this matter, now.
If only I had the power of the spin doctors - I was just giving my personal opinion of where things will go
Sipping Harvest Pale whilst working is not such a good idea, especially when your driving
still sticking to copper-it has a better resale value! sorry dudes, unless braided hose becomes cheaper!!!
Install, do you drive around the neighbourhood picking up scrap?:D Kind of a second career.
A bit :off topic: , but I have found in the past when dealing with people, that whenever they have been shown to be in the wrong, for whatever reason, they start throwing personal attacks because they cannot argue properly.
This thread is beginning to show these signs from a few newcomers or is it just me?
Brian, I think it is going nowhere productive so should probably be locked. I am sure there will be another time for this discussion without innuendo.
Don't lock it discuss it - this is going to happen and you need to get yourselves informed
Like it or not, change is an integral part of today's business climate. Those employees who embrace and initiate change will thrive, while those who complain and fear change may be headed for the unemployment line. :D
I've got a discussion for you.
You should never treat your future customers as fools. Or look down on them, or insult their intelligence.
you want to talk about aluminium pipe, maybe someone should look up the competition to these clowns and invite them here to discuss it with them instead. At least the thread won't be wasted, and these clowns will learn to realise that if you want to advertise, pay for it, not generate interest deceptively.
What you tried was marketing, and it failed because you were bad at it. Waited until the thread got started by yourself under an alias or an employee, then spewed a post full of propaganda by rote. Your not very good at this are you, and a bit cheeky when it didn't go your own way. I agree with what Brian said, most people who do the dodgey get really snarky when caught out.
You don't deserve a discussion after what you did, spammers don't deserve any respect, if this discussion should happen (if it does at all), in a thread without your link in it. Or do you daily converse with the spammers sending you spam etc in your email?
Respect the forum for what it is, discussion for members not trying to market products in general conservation, and if you want to advertise, pay for it! Don't insult the people here saying what you supplied was free discussion, it was all marketing, with a link to your business, done with business in mind, not discussion. You would have got more respect with the web link (how can new posters even post a link? I thought that was disabled for new posters?)
*You would have got more respect withOUT the web link.
Looks like a midlife crisis - and your all miles off the mark - how can you identify who the business owner is?
1) You aren't successfully trolling when everyone knows you are a troll.
2) I would guarantee you are 'don van vliet' now, just based to posting style.
3) Do you have to be the owner of a company to be willing to promote their business these days?
The guys on this site are amazing - definatley had to much gas escape through there brains - the comments are worthless
[QUOTE=Bluboo;245730]I've got a discussion for you.
You should never treat your future customers as fools. Or look down on them, or insult their intelligence.
you want to talk about aluminium pipe, maybe someone should look up the competition to these clowns and invite them here to discuss it with them instead. At least the thread won't be wasted, and these clowns will learn to realise that if you want to advertise, pay for it, not generate interest deceptively.
What you tried was marketing, and it failed because you were bad at it. Waited until the thread got started by yourself under an alias or an employee, then spewed a post full of propaganda by rote. Your not very good at this are you, and a bit cheeky when it didn't go your own way. I agree with what Brian said, most people who do the dodgey get really snarky when caught out.
You don't deserve a discussion after what you did, spammers don't deserve any respect, if this discussion should happen (if it does at all), in a thread without your link in it. Or do you daily converse with the spammers sending you spam etc in your email?
Respect the forum for what it is
SPAM SPAM SPAM whay are you going on about ?? it started as and was only a discussion about aluminium pipe, because some body asked the question. chill out as they say.
At the risk of bringing down the wrath of the Mods
I personally have no time for blatant advertisement or trolling
So could those of you involved please f*ck off somewhere else and leave the rest of us to carry on .
There is enough crap going on around her with people who shouldn't be allowed leave the house on their own asking advise on various aspects of the trade.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for helping people with the desire and aptitude to do what we do but i draw the line at watching people blatantly blowing smoke up each others arse holes.
So please JOG ON
Cheers
Stu
Gee Stufus. Just as well your well respected on this forum for priceless information. Didn't think the pressure was getting to you, but, as they say, we're all human. Maybe the Mods will turn a blind eye on your post ;)..respectfully, Mike.
Thread closed.
The thread starter or lokaro1 can start a new thread on the subject if they wish, as long as first declairing an interest at the start of the discussion and by following the site rules.
Cheers