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coolincab
17-07-2007, 10:32 PM
hello been asked today to supply & fit air con unit for offshore electrical cabnet for controling a crain measures about 1m x 1m x 0.5m it has to stand up to rough seas work off 24v 110v or 240v & work in extream heat around the equaitor would be fine if it could run on r134 gas but any advise on type & size of unit required much apricated

Brian_UK
17-07-2007, 10:56 PM
One name that springs to mind is MKS of Italy.

http://www.mksclima.com/h_ing_fr01.htm

Samarjit Sen
18-07-2007, 02:59 AM
In the case of Air Conditioning of an electrical box, you have to be careful about the RH. It should not be high. It should be in the range of 40 to 50%. As you say the ambient conditions are extreme and severe, this means that the ambinet must be very high. Upto an ambient temperature of 60 Deg C you should use R 134a and if it is higher then you have to use R 124 or R 236fa. The refrigeration compressors should be either open reciprocating type or semi hermetic type. Generally there are two compressors which are suitable for such applications. They are Bitzer and Bock.

If you want any further details, please do let me know. I have executed similar projects from designing to commissioning.

The Viking
18-07-2007, 01:27 PM
Try THESE (http://www.rittal.co.uk/index.html) people.

We had about 40 of their units at Gillette's factory (whilst there still were one in UK), they worked OK without any major problems.

Don't know what they can offer for corrosive environments but it is worth asking them.

Samarjit Sen
18-07-2007, 02:11 PM
For corrossive gases and the extrwme and severe conditions, the Evaporator Coils and all the components are finished with epoxy coated paints. In this particular application, I presume water could be used to cool the condenser. The shell & tube condenser has to be suitable for marine application. Could you state the extreme ambient temperature.

Jase
18-07-2007, 08:31 PM
Is this crane on a rig or on a ship?

Jase

coolincab
18-07-2007, 09:11 PM
Is this crane on a rig or on a ship?

Jase
its on a ship thanks

coolincab
18-07-2007, 09:53 PM
For corrossive gases and the extrwme and severe conditions, the Evaporator Coils and all the components are finished with epoxy coated paints. In this particular application, I presume water could be used to cool the condenser. The shell & tube condenser has to be suitable for marine application. Could you state the extreme ambient temperature.
About 50 deg c thanks

Samarjit Sen
19-07-2007, 02:51 AM
Since the ambient is 50 Deg. C and you could use sea water, then I would advice you to use water cooled condensers with R 22 or else with air cooled condenser you use R 134a which will be suitable for this application. The compressors which will be more suitable are either Bitzer or Bock.

The coils should be finished with a coat of epoxy paint. These are available, further the coil manufacturers will provide this. The fin spacing for the Air Cooled Condenser should be 8 fins per inch and for that of the Evaporator Coils it should be 10 fins per inch.

These are what I use for the Steel Plant and Coal Pit application Cranes Operators cabin and Operators Cabin in the Power Shovels respectively.

Any other details, you may contact me. You may contact Lintern , USA and Axima, Germany who are the manufacturers of such systems. Sorry I do not have their e mail id. In case I can locate them I shall let you know.

Samarjit Sen
19-07-2007, 09:20 AM
The following links may be of help to you.

www.lintern.com (http://www.lintern.com)

www.kooltronic.com (http://www.kooltronic.com)

Jase
19-07-2007, 10:37 PM
Here are a couple of companies that specialise in these harsh environments:

http://labtechgroup.co.uk

http://vertec-eng.co.uk

Jase