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GVLax50
17-05-2007, 08:29 PM
I have a Eliwell ID974 controller in a used Samoa 120 gelato case. It didn't come with a manual and once or twice a day it goes into defrost mode and jumps from -17C to 8C and completely ruins my ice cream product in the case. Does anyone know where I can find a manual or can anyone tell me how to simply turn off the defrost setting so that it doesn't defrost on it's own? Thanks.

Latte
17-05-2007, 11:21 PM
Having to work off memory on this on so if i am wrong i am sure someone will correct me

Push and hold the set key, after 5 seconds it take you into the set up menu, first one being CP
use up and down to get to the defrost menu, push set, scroll through, defrost termination temp should be DLI, Defrost interval time (Time between defrosts) is DTI
Defrost Endurance time is DET

Hope this helps
Regards

Raymond

Brian_UK
17-05-2007, 11:22 PM
This document has a 974 but I'm not sure if it is the same as yours, might be worth a try though.

http://www.thermofrostcryo.co.uk/technical_assistance/Eliwell_handbookv2.0.pdf

[edit]
Sorry, try this one, it's got the ID374
http://www.hawco-refrigeration.co.uk/support.asp

chillin out
17-05-2007, 11:25 PM
Is it hot gas defrost?

They usually are on ice cream cases.

Make sure the fans are not running during defrost.

Chillin:) :)

Abe
18-05-2007, 01:09 PM
This document has a 974 but I'm not sure if it is the same as yours, might be worth a try though.

http://www.thermofrostcryo.co.uk/technical_assistance/Eliwell_handbookv2.0.pdf

[edit]
Sorry, try this one, it's got the ID374
http://www.hawco-refrigeration.co.uk/support.asp

Brian

Its the ID , not IC range
Ive also been looking with no success as yet

walden
18-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Download instructions from here

http://www.frostechnic.com/service.htm

Peter_1
18-05-2007, 04:03 PM
You may not simply remove these defrosts, there's a change that your compressor will be dead within some time (liquid slugging)
Once or twice a day isn't even that much.
There's something else that's wrong.
Anyhow, you have to pass 0°C, otherwise the ice won't melt ;)

Ohhh,...and welcome. Where's PA anywhere

BTW, in attachment your manual but again, this isn't the way you have to solve this.

walden
18-05-2007, 04:34 PM
PA? Pennsylvania?

Abe
18-05-2007, 08:19 PM
Thank you Waldon and Peter

Peter_1
19-05-2007, 07:39 AM
The importer of Eliwell and Dixell gave me a DVD with all the manuals on it, so I never have to look very far.

frasc7
31-07-2007, 09:21 AM
HI! i'M IN SPAIN AND I HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLE AS YOU HAVE WITH THE ELIWELL ID 974. DID YOU FIND A SOLUTION YET!
THNKS

I have a Eliwell ID974 controller in a used Samoa 120 gelato case. It didn't come with a manual and once or twice a day it goes into defrost mode and jumps from -17C to 8C and completely ruins my ice cream product in the case. Does anyone know where I can find a manual or can anyone tell me how to simply turn off the defrost setting so that it doesn't defrost on it's own? Thanks.

Peter_1
12-08-2007, 12:25 PM
GVLAX50, was that all you needed?
No problem, thanks :(

goodguy
12-08-2007, 01:14 PM
I have recently been working on a gelato case that has two evaporators and is hot gas defrost. The defrosts are staggered on each evap to try to maintain the case temperature ( and supply a heat load). It also uses the same type of controller and it has multiple defrost outputs for HGV.
Gelato is not that common in canada, this is the first case I have seen, it is made by IFI from Italy. Model: tug160a
Is this type of hot gas set up common on gelato displays?

Sorry, the actual controller I have is a xw746k, the ID974 may not have the same functions.

duarte
28-08-2007, 04:44 PM
I have the ID974 manual. Give me your mail, and i will send it to you.

mambro_01
07-09-2007, 04:43 PM
Hi All,

the manual of eliwell Id 974 is downloadable from the invensys web site @eliwell.it
Electronic refrigeration controller \ digifrost line

Eliwell has also a rappresentative in Slough (UK) with a technical support.
Here's the link to dowload the manual. Hope this help otherwise give me your mail, i'll very please to send the manual.

mambro_01
07-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Hi All,

I think it's enough to act on DST paramenter if the evaporator probe is present. If reduced defrost will end at a lower temperature.
Dt has effect as well, because has effect on compressor activation delay after defrosting. it's needed for the drainage