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404cab
22-02-2007, 05:47 PM
HI,

Who else than York and Carrier is making big centrifugal water chillers.
I have seen York ( up to 7 MW cooling capacity, and Carrier semi hermetic turbos up to 5 MW)

Who else can go above 5 MW ????

malik55
22-02-2007, 06:21 PM
In past there was some good names in the centrifugal chillers such as AIRTEMP,WESTING HOUSE and WORTHINGTON, But they are out of business,Now a days
MC QUAY and CONTINENTAL from states and
DAIKEN and HITACHI from JAPAN are also making centrifugals how big that you can find from their sites,
malik55

abdulazman
23-02-2007, 07:37 AM
Hi ya ALL :)

Have you ever seen or ever heard of the TRANE Chillers,
CVGE, CVHE, CDHG. All this are Big Centrifugal Chillers.

Adios Amigos :D :D

Renato RR
23-02-2007, 10:15 AM
Bigest I see was Trane 1,5MW.Also heard for Hitachi 3x1,5MW instoled in Russia by one Croatian firm but maintance crew from Russia destroj all 3 becose they put bridge on protection.What a currage!

Renato

malik55
23-02-2007, 08:09 PM
Yes,
There are TRANE centrifugal and are very smooth machines,
malik55

ART KUHN
24-02-2007, 03:05 PM
Try johnson controlls ;-)

Art

Andy
24-02-2007, 05:33 PM
Try johnson controlls ;-)

Art

Hi Art:)

wheres Veghal:confused:


Kind Regards Andy:)

ART KUHN
24-02-2007, 08:09 PM
Hi Art:)

wheres Veghal:confused:


Kind Regards Andy:)

Hi Andy,

I guess you mean veghel that's in the south of the Netherlands

Kind regards Art

Andy
24-02-2007, 08:58 PM
Hi Andy,

I guess you mean veghel
Kind regards Art

Yes:D

thank you.

Kind Regards Andy:)

Lowrider
25-02-2007, 12:13 AM
Trane produces centrifugal chillers up to 3,5 MW!

And just sold 10 for a irs in Holland!!!!

abdulazman
26-02-2007, 08:26 AM
Hi Guys :) ,

Appreciate someone's help on this one.
Apologize for probing in the wrong section of the forum.
Please tell me what is actually the model and make of the following chiller? :)
Info I have was Mitsubishi-York HTPE, MIT-C1T :confused:
Any Kind soul Houston, Mars, Venus please help... :o

abdulazman
26-02-2007, 08:36 AM
Apologize,

Here are the photos.

Andy
26-02-2007, 09:44 PM
Hi Guys :) ,

Appreciate someone's help on this one.
Apologize for probing in the wrong section of the forum.
Please tell me what is actually the model and make of the following chiller? :)
Info I have was Mitsubishi-York HTPE, MIT-C1T :confused:
Any Kind soul Houston, Mars, Venus please help... :o

The chiller body looks like York, but the compressor is not the York machines I know. That must be Mitsubishi bit.

Any comments Guys:confused:

Kind Regards Andy:)

404cab
27-02-2007, 12:52 AM
Hello,

Art Kuhn made a nice joke...Johnson Control..why do you think they bought York...
I was asking for capacity above 5 MW, as I can see in the answers, there is probably nobody else than York and Carrier...

FreezerGeezer
27-02-2007, 02:16 PM
Actually, Trane can go up to 13.8MW.

Here's a link to the product presentation. (http://www.trane.com/Commercial/Equipment/PDF/16/CTV-SLB008-EN.pdf)


And here's Trane's Centrifugal Page (http://www.trane.com/Commercial/Equipment/ProductLine.aspx?pl=16)

We have many of these types of unit in the field.

Lowrider
27-02-2007, 11:39 PM
You are correct, I was to fast going to the product catalog!

FreezerGeezer are working at Trane?

abdulazman
28-02-2007, 09:16 AM
Appreciate for the comment Andy.
Found the missing link.
Actually someone wanted to know the availability of the impeller and internal mechanism before overhauling.
Chiller, medieval age, using R11.

Was working for Trane in 2002.
Installation and Commissioning of 3 nos CDHG for a bussines distripark.
No need catalogs.Got the EAGLES to do the flying for any trane jobs.

FreezerGeezer
28-02-2007, 09:56 AM
You are correct, I was to fast going to the product catalog!

FreezerGeezer are working at Trane?


Yes. My handle comes form my commercial days. And you?

Lowrider
28-02-2007, 11:43 PM
Me too, in Holland!

FreezerGeezer
01-03-2007, 11:21 AM
Out of Soest?

Lowrider
01-03-2007, 02:54 PM
Thats correct!

iceman3412
05-03-2007, 10:27 PM
york have 10MW multistage machines.
I believe they have some installed to cool the channel tunnel.

malik55
06-03-2007, 07:55 PM
404Cab
Have a look on Mitsubishi multi stage that is a 10,000TR MONSTER MACHINE
http://www.mhi.co.jp/aircon/english/ab_chiller/catalog/PDF/MHI_chillers_2003.pdf
if link not opens then try www.mhi.co.jp/aircon/english/ab_chiller/catalog/index.html
and then see the product catalogs,
malik55

iceman3412
07-03-2007, 09:53 PM
looks liek an impressive bit of kit, has any one worked on had any dealings with the mitsubishi centrifs.
we have york centrifs at 8,500 TR
mitsi with 10,000 TR
any body know of any larger

404cab
08-03-2007, 12:15 AM
HI,

Malik55, thank you very much for the infos,
it is very very interesting. I had the oportunity to work in MHI in Nagasaki, but obviously it not there that these units were built or they would have tell me something about it...
Trane, it looks like "old design" units , but please tell me if I am wrong.
They have semi hermeti with R134 a up to 3,5 MW and "new" unit with R 123, I don't get the point to built new units with this refrigerant, ( only good to replace R 11).
For the Big Chillers, I have seen 30 MW Units ( 2 in Paris) : multistage from York, 24 MW Carrier ( 1 in Paris ) single stage from Carrier.

Lowrider
08-03-2007, 10:20 PM
Why do you think the Trane units look old design?

And open drive?

I've worked on several centrifugal chillers from Trane, all hermetic and all on R134a!

Some early models uses 123 but not the ones we've placed a year ago! And the ten new ones we are going place in Holland are all R134a!

graeme ellis
13-03-2007, 02:49 AM
Try johnson controlls ;-)

Art
:eek: WHY?

graeme ellis
13-03-2007, 02:52 AM
HI,

Who else than York and Carrier is making big centrifugal water chillers.
I have seen York ( up to 7 MW cooling capacity, and Carrier semi hermetic turbos up to 5 MW)

Who else can go above 5 MW ????
Try Mc Quay chillers they are Quite good and also Trane chillers:D

Cofreth
13-03-2007, 02:21 PM
Why do you think the Trane units look old design?

And open drive?

I've worked on several centrifugal chillers from Trane, all hermetic and all on R134a!

Some early models uses 123 but not the ones we've placed a year ago! And the ten new ones we are going place in Holland are all R134a!

As usual a 3 stage direct drive centrifugal compressor?

404cab
21-03-2007, 09:21 PM
Thank you all for the answers, do not hesitate to continue to put more infos for me.
Sorry for the Trane Remark, they have now units with R134, but on the web, I was a little bit surprised to find still some new units with R123.
I am very impressed by the Mistubishi units, variable diffuser and variable speed drive is definitly a big improvment for the energy saving.

Jacek
31-03-2007, 07:37 AM
HI,

Trane have centrifugal chillers up to 3800 kW.

Regards,

Jacek


HI,

Who else than York and Carrier is making big centrifugal water chillers.
I have seen York ( up to 7 MW cooling capacity, and Carrier semi hermetic turbos up to 5 MW)

Who else can go above 5 MW ????

Jacek
31-03-2007, 08:38 AM
Hi,

Mcquay produce also centrifugal chillers up to 9000kW!!!

Regards,

Jacek


HI,

Who else than York and Carrier is making big centrifugal water chillers.
I have seen York ( up to 7 MW cooling capacity, and Carrier semi hermetic turbos up to 5 MW)

Who else can go above 5 MW ????

Jacek
31-03-2007, 08:42 AM
Hi,

In Poland YORK (JCI) sell YK centrifugal chillers from 750 to 7700 kW of capacity.

Regards,

Jacek


HI,

Who else than York and Carrier is making big centrifugal water chillers.
I have seen York ( up to 7 MW cooling capacity, and Carrier semi hermetic turbos up to 5 MW)

Who else can go above 5 MW ????

Jacek
31-03-2007, 11:06 AM
Hi,

Carrier sell their centrifugal chillers with capacities: 530 - 5300.

Regards,

Jacek

Jacek
31-03-2007, 11:43 PM
Hi,

Trane is very strong in Poland. Let's the strongest player on the polish market.

Regards,

Jacek


Trane produces centrifugal chillers up to 3,5 MW!

And just sold 10 for a irs in Holland!!!!

Lowrider
01-04-2007, 09:36 PM
not just in Poland, Trane is strong, but all over the world!

icebox
02-04-2007, 02:47 PM
Hi,
I'm new to site so not too sure how to post etc but anyway here goes I need a bit of help.I have a York centrifugal chiller with a sub cooler in the condenser. We have alot of leaks in the sub cooler & at the moment we are retubing same.When we removed the old tubes we noticed that the tubes sit in a type of mesh wire down through the sub cooler & this is exactly where the tubes are leaking. I would like to know if anybody else has come across this problem & if so how did you rectify it. I would also like to know if anybody out there can recommend a good company to retube shell & tube condensors/evaporators in Ireland or the UK.
Thanks in advance

poe_boy
05-04-2007, 02:48 AM
Try Mc Quay chillers they are Quite good and also Trane chillers:D
I agree with Art! Take a look at the York YK chiller models. :)

FreezerGeezer
10-04-2007, 01:01 PM
Hi,
I'm new to site so not too sure how to post etc but anyway here goes I need a bit of help.I have a York centrifugal chiller with a sub cooler in the condenser. We have alot of leaks in the sub cooler & at the moment we are retubing same.When we removed the old tubes we noticed that the tubes sit in a type of mesh wire down through the sub cooler & this is exactly where the tubes are leaking. I would like to know if anybody else has come across this problem & if so how did you rectify it. I would also like to know if anybody out there can recommend a good company to retube shell & tube condensors/evaporators in Ireland or the UK.
Thanks in advance

I've had good experiences with Coil Master in Hampshire.
I don't know if they'd be cost effective to do Irish work, but I reckon it's worth having a chat with them.

No affiliation, etc. ;)

paddy
01-05-2007, 07:13 AM
Question for Malik. Did you ever work on a Chrysler C2 centrif!! 'Cos if you did you know that they were not the best m/c ever built, also Westinghouse is now Mcquay which has been taken over by Daikin, so maybe the build quality will improve

paddy
01-05-2007, 07:18 AM
Icebox, how old is your job? I quoted a York YT working on 11 about 7 years ago ,It sounds suspiciouly like the same job!!!!

yuhonghai
18-05-2007, 02:22 PM
Don't forget former Sulzer Friotherm in switzerland,now they have called Friotherm AG,the big impeller is 560mm,and speed is about 15000rpm,so you can image how big it is.

evapcoil
10-08-2007, 04:31 PM
I know ,I know ...it's an old thread... :-)
But for what it can worth , don't get VSM89 York chillers units..... I know that I'll receive lots of cannonballs for this ,but this is my experience...
Evapcoil

Entropie
10-08-2007, 10:38 PM
if you are looking for a real big chiller then try Yorks Titan chiller (multistage centrifugal up to 21MW).........performance matters!:D

The captain
10-09-2007, 02:20 PM
Sulzer Friotherm

KurtMc
26-10-2007, 11:27 PM
I have 4 Trane CVHE units that are workhorses. One, in fact has +60,000 hours & is still using R-11 (Going to convert it soon).

Chris Burton
12-12-2007, 06:13 PM
be carefull of Italian built Mcquay, poor build quality

TOTTIHS
13-12-2007, 01:14 AM
The truth often hurts:(

But so does living with those McQuay's

Denny Thuss
16-12-2007, 06:07 PM
:eek: WHY?

because we are working for johnons's :D

Lowrider
17-12-2007, 09:06 PM
because we are working for johnons's :D

You've only got yourself to blame for that!;)