Impact of F-gas on Chiller sales

[JamIreland]

Hi
I am doing a project on the impact of enviormental legislation on business. I would like to know your views on the recent EU F-gas legislation, Part L2b in the UK.
Do you think that it will have a postive impact on the sales of chillers?

[Argus]

Opinions will vary and won't tell you much.

The UK Govt is required to carry out Regulatory Impact Assessments (RIAs) when new legislation is introduced.

I suggest that you search DEFRA / DTI for RIAs on the F Gas Regulations or write to the policy unit.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/innovation/sustainability/fgases/page28889.html
http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/climatechange/uk/fgas/index.htm

The building Regulations are here:
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/en/4000000000001.html

Remember that there are different building rules in Scotland and N Ireland.

[Brian_UK]

Hi
I am doing a project on the impact of enviormental legislation on business. I would like to know your views on the recent EU F-gas legislation, Part L2b in the UK.
Do you think that it will have a postive impact on the sales of chillers?As an analyst are you looking solely at water chillers are you you also going to be looking at the wider refrigeration and air conditioning / air cooling markets?

Would you also care to provide more info on the Part L2b for those that haven't read it all yet?

Lets be honest, efficiency should be the criterea for sales nowadays.

[US Iceman]

Lets be honest, efficiency should be the criterea for sales nowadays.


I agree with this and would add several points:

1) efficiency should be based on common rating methods (COP, SEER, or equivalent) for use in the real world, not a laboratory, or by analysis. A lot of this is covered under ARI ratings here in the US.

2) it might be interesting to see a comparative relationship between efficiency and the system charge. This would mean large systems have to get very efficient to be comparable to smaller systems. Or, it would force the large systems to become more critically charged.

Both I think would force users and owners to start operating their systems better than they did in earlier years. The benefit to the owners and users is now they have a basis for judgement between two different proposals.

[Brian_UK]

Well, it's good to see that JamIreland has had the decency to come back and comment on his thread.

Oh, I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?

[Andy]

Well, it's good to see that JamIreland has had the decency to come back and comment on his thread.

Oh, I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?


Just some pratt getting us to do his market research for him and charging a fortune for it;)

Kind Regards Andy:)