Travel time.

[chillin out]

Hi guys, just wanted to know how other peoples get paid for their travel home.

Some companies will the rate of pay for the time of day/ day of week.
Other companies will only pay single time for travel home/ rate of pay weekend.
Others pay nowt.

Click the poll and make a comment please.

Chillin:) :)

[LRAC]

Hi Chillin out

We get paid the going rate depending on what day i.e weekday /weekend, our hours of work are 9-5.30 but we dont get paid for the first half hour travelling to and from site in the morning or evening.

Lrac

[rdocwra]

Hi All,

See, it's not always about hourly rate !!!!

The previous company i worked for had an office in Cambridge and i didnt get paid for travel to and from the office:eek:

I Think i worked it out and it equalled about 50p an hour on an hourly rate i could drop and still get the same amount Home-Home.

Thankfully the company i am with now i get paid door to door and at the relevent rate for the time/day

Another thing you have to weigh up when looking for another job

regards

fatboy

[milo]

Hi
I agree that the hourly rate can be misleading - losing one hour a day travel time is a big reduction on hourly rate. How much time does everybody else spend on their return journey

[frank]

Well, today I decided to go to a small job in Manchester and then on to Wigan.

Took 5.5 hours to get back. :eek:

Boy, was I ready for a p**s and a pint :)

Lads in the pub thought I'd found a new "local" :D

[bernard]

I can,t believe there is companies out there who don,t pay travel:eek: :eek:

Bernard

[djbe]

This is something that I haven't come across.

Surely if you leave from home direct to a customers site then the either the customer is getting charged travel or the employer will gain as you spend more working time on site? So you should get paid travel.

I suppose it depends if you are workshop based or not.

If workshop based then I would expect that you are paid from the time you arrive at the workshop to the time you leave.

However if you are a field engineer and generally go direct to a customer from home I see that as different. You should be paid from the time you leave home to your first job to the time you get home.

If the employer doesn't want to pay the travel just leave home at 9.00 and make sure you get home by 5.00. They will understand the lost productivity very quickly.

[taz24]

When I was in service I got paid the rate at which I was working.
If I was at work on double time I would travel on double.
Now though I'm on salery so I dont get paid to travel, or the pay is at normal rate.

taz.

[LRAC]

There is another line of thought in that, office workers don't get paid to travel to work to carry out their duties. As i mentioned before we loose an hour each day for travelling to and from site but get paid for the rest at the going rate.

its better than being on salary and if during the previous month we have arrived at the customers site for a 9am start each day we are awarded an extra days holiday so 25 days + Banks + 12 extra days or take it as paid.

I am quiet happy with that set up and its down to the individual to get the right deal for themselves or the situation.

Good engineers are hard to find and i'm sure you could all do deals with your employers.

Kind regards
Lrac

[kris]

office workers dont get called to work at 3am,or go home covered in oil.!!

market forces drive pay and conditions,if your good enough a company will find a way to pay you.

[LRAC]

office workers dont get called to work at 3am,or go home covered in oil.!!.

I agree they don't get covered in oil but you don't get covered in toner, tipex or other office substances and get kept like a chicken with no escape till home time.
With regards to the hours worked the 24 hour distribution centres need covering and in our area it seams more people work at night than they do during the day. These people travel to work at 1,2,3 am but dont get travel time.

Call out has always been a part of our trade and you did have the choice when you were job seeking to turn your back on it?

We spend most of our lives at work and if you don't enjoy it our lives are waisted.

Enjoy what you do and remember:
EVERY DAY IS A LOVELY DAY and for those of us on the road:
THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH WEATHER JUST THE CLOTHES YOUR WEARING.:D

Kind regards
Lrac

[chillin out]

I think the point to be made is that when people are traveling to work in an office or elsewhere, the company is not making any money.

When we travel to site, our companies are charging a call out!!!!!

Why should companies make money for travelling to a customer and not pay the worker?

Chillin:) :)

[LRAC]

OK i admit defeat on this one as each individual has a different view point.

As Delboy says he who dares wins? but not on this occasion.:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Kind regards
Lrac

[chillin out]

OK i admit defeat on this one as each individual has a different view point.

As Delboy says he who dares wins? but not on this occasion.:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Kind regards
Lrac
Hehehe.... thanks for the input anyway.

Chillin:) :)

[SteveCass]

Don't most people who work in an office live nearby? Say 30- 45 mins? I am paid flat rate less 45 mins each way, so when I have to go to Brum (2 1/2 hrs each way) it takes the sting out knowing I will be paid for the early start/ late finish. Plus I work later and get a bit of O/T as well!

Steve

[Dan]

We get paid the going rate depending on what day i.e weekday /weekend, our hours of work are 9-5.30 but we dont get paid for the first half hour travelling to and from site in the morning or evening.

This is our standard policy, assuming that an average travel time to work would be a half hour. I will pay beyond the half hour but often do not charge the customer because of negotiated terms. Off-hour travel is compensated portal to portal, in other words all travel is compensated and charged for. I couldn't find a satisfactory category in the poll, so I didn't vote.

[Cofreth]

I guess most ppl in UK are paid hourly rate instead of a monthly wages?
What is the average working hour for a day?
Do you work on Saturday too? Half day, full day?

[Lippygit]

We wouldn't do it if we didn't bloody like it life is sometimes a bitch on the road but hey ..............is there some other job that would give us a free vehicle ok maybe not so free and a life on the road ........... if you don't like it go work for MacDonalds or shove yer backside in a factory ........... I spent 10 years in a factory and life on the open road surely beats it

[chillin out]

We wouldn't do it if we didn't bloody like it life is sometimes a bitch on the road but hey ..............is there some other job that would give us a free vehicle ok maybe not so free and a life on the road ........... if you don't like it go work for MacDonalds or shove yer backside in a factory ........... I spent 10 years in a factory and life on the open road surely beats it
Erm.... nobody said they didn't like it.

Chillin:) :)

[Grizzly]

We wouldn't do it if we didn't bloody like it life is sometimes a bitch on the road but hey ..............is there some other job that would give us a free vehicle ok maybe not so free and a life on the road ........... if you don't like it go work for MacDonalds or shove yer backside in a factory ........... I spent 10 years in a factory and life on the open road surely beats it

OUCH
Say it as you see it Lippygit.
Many of us have issues with certain terms and conditions. And most of us put up with the gauling ones because they are in the minority. But surely when it all becomes to much it's time to move on.
But at the end of the day the difference between
being contented in your job is "frame of mind".
Because quite often the job does not change just your opinion of it changes.
Grizzlyhttp://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[captincodeye]

My Company doesnt pay travel time, Boy i think im gettin a rough deal!!!

[LRAC]

You can't please all of the people all of the time,another thing i forgot to mention on the hours worked situation.

we work on banked hours in simple terms i'll try and explain.

I leave home @ 8.30am get to site @9.00am, leave site @ 5pm get home @5.30 thats a day worked with no overtime,deduction for travel 1 hour,deduction for lunch 1/2 hr total worked hrs 7 1/2 hrs.

OT example

I leave home @ 6am get to site @ 7am, leave site @ 5pm home for 6pm. Total hrs = 12 but deduct 1.5 hrs = 10.5 hrs.Now heres the clever bit the excess hrs are banked from that day total = 3 hrs.

If my next day the work on site does not equate to 7.5 hrs lets say i do 4.5 hrs actual work then the pervious days overtime is taken to make up my 7.5 hrs.

In reality we are payed for actual hrs worked, we only get paid overtime when our working hrs have totalled above 37.5 hrs per week inc travel.

I know it sounds complecated but the system works well, i would never go back on salary again as employers take the piss, i see our system the same as somebody clocking in and out at work we don't get docked as somebody who is just paid for their hrs worked.

May not be everybodys cup of tea????????????

[chillin out]

My Company doesnt pay travel time, Boy i think im gettin a rough deal!!!
If a company I worked for decided to do that then I would tell them to look after the van at night time them selfs.
At the end of each shift I would drive it back to the yard and leave it there (which they would HAVE to pay you for). I would sooner walk home. I personally don't use the van for use after I get home and it kind of takes up a bit of space in the drive.

After a few van break ins and tools stolen, they will quickly change their policy.

Chillin:):)

[Lippygit]

Travel time 1/2 hour each way ........ not such a bad deal really . As for booking a lunch hour / 1/2 hour etc. No way I have my grub on clients time , so no booking a lunch break on my time sheet :D
And I'm sure like most of the rest of you guys ... I know the best cafes and greasy spoons throughout the country :D

[absolute-zero]

The last company i worked for, did not pay to travel to and from work on a sheduled work week.

But there are special circumstances that did.

If job was off site then yes normal pay was implimented.

If traveled to job where required overnite stays, yes plus even mileage at $0.35 US a mile, plus all other travel expenditures.

If emergency after Hr call out service, 3.0 hrs at time and a half labor paid minimium, so if job only took 5 minutes to complete still got paid 3 hrs call out incentive.

If was sunday or holiday emergency call out, the incentive was 4 hrs at double time. regarless of minimum time to do job.

This was very good money if you could quickly diagnose problems and resolve in less time of incentive rate.


Regards A-Z

PS Lippy the camel toe is very distracting:rolleyes:

[Grizzly]

PS Lippy the camel toe is very distracting

Interesting terminology AZ.
Grizzly

[MRcoolingMAGIC]

PS Lippy the camel toe is very distracting

Interesting terminology AZ.
Grizzly

I absolutely agree with you.My eyeballs get focused in one points and stay like this even if i look away.At the end of the day it is not very healthy for my eyesight.;)

[Grizzly]

Just to update on unpaid travel time.
Our Company has just reduced what was 1hr each way or 2hrs total.
To 1HR outside of normal working hours.

Which is a step in the right direction.
Any travel time accrued is still only paid at flat rate.

REASON ! WE KEPT COMPLAINING + ENGINEERS THAT LEFT ALWAYS SITED TRAVEL TIME AS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS!

Even the big companies have to listen in the end!

And like many others I am not enthralled by travel time at flat rate. But I am prepared to live with it for the moment!
Cheers Grizzly

[Chunk]

The company i work for pays 1 hour each way start/end of day as single time so if 3 hrs each way you get 2 hrs single time and 4 hrs o/t.

I personally book half hour each way for all jobs regardless just to get them back for making me travel too far.
I know its only a matter of a few pennies but i have principles dont you know.

[Refrigerologist]

You can't please all of the people all of the time,another thing i forgot to mention on the hours worked situation.

we work on banked hours in simple terms i'll try and explain.

I leave home @ 8.30am get to site @9.00am, leave site @ 5pm get home @5.30 thats a day worked with no overtime,deduction for travel 1 hour,deduction for lunch 1/2 hr total worked hrs 7 1/2 hrs.

OT example

I leave home @ 6am get to site @ 7am, leave site @ 5pm home for 6pm. Total hrs = 12 but deduct 1.5 hrs = 10.5 hrs.Now heres the clever bit the excess hrs are banked from that day total = 3 hrs.

If my next day the work on site does not equate to 7.5 hrs lets say i do 4.5 hrs actual work then the pervious days overtime is taken to make up my 7.5 hrs.

In reality we are payed for actual hrs worked, we only get paid overtime when our working hrs have totalled above 37.5 hrs per week inc travel.

I know it sounds complecated but the system works well, i would never go back on salary again as employers take the piss, i see our system the same as somebody clocking in and out at work we don't get docked as somebody who is just paid for their hrs worked.

May not be everybodys cup of tea????????????

I can't believe that your company takes away your hours worked on a previous day to make up time on a day where they cannot provide you with full employment! I run my own business and even my subbies get paid a full day if we have contracted them to a job but we are unable to utilise them for the full day! I have never worked for any business where I was not paid from home to home, and at the correct out of hours rates if it was required. No wonder the industry is getting in a bad way. I got out of supermarket refrigeration when the employers wanted us all to work shifts to avoid overtime payments.

[philfridge]

Look if you dont get paid travel dont travel there just go up the office and slurp tea ! like the office staff. Get them to travel in their own time ha ha . I get paid door to door anyday and in todays world this is becoming normal ?? isnt it ? .

[absolute-zero]

PS Lippy the camel toe is very distracting

Interesting terminology AZ.
Grizzly

Grizzly what else would you call that?:confused::):D

[Grizzly]

Grizzly what else would you call that?:confused::):D

Sorry for the slow responce AZ.
I have only recently come back from a holiday of a lifetime visiting Singapore, Australia (various parts) and Hong Kong.

Erm! Camel Toe was a very apt description, just one that I had not heard before.
Cheers Grizzly.

[absolute-zero]

Sorry for the slow responce AZ.
I have only recently come back from a holiday of a lifetime visiting Singapore, Australia (various parts) and Hong Kong.

Erm! Camel Toe was a very apt description, just one that I had not heard before.
Cheers Grizzly.

Grizz, Maybe you have heard of Moose Hoof instead? He He He

[WINJA]

In nz theres this thing about still turning up to the workshop every morning and then getting dispatched from the shop , of course you dont get paid to travel to and from work , some companys in auckland let you go straight to site but thats mainly because the traffic is so bad and if you went to the shop first you wouldnt get to site till 9 am